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Perisphincter gracilicornis Schnee 1978 ♀ - Ichneumonidae Anomaloninae Gravenhorstiini http://www.entomologiitaliani.net/public/forum/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=104&t=70226 |
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Autore: | Eopteryx [ 16/08/2016, 14:45 ] |
Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: Anomalon? |
Yes Anomaloninae. Not Anomalon. Other tribe: Gravenhorstiini. I try to check literature to tell you more Filippo |
Autore: | Eopteryx [ 16/08/2016, 15:01 ] |
Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: Anomalon? |
It could be a female of Atrometus, but I don't have this genus in my collection, so it's impossible for me to be sure. What we can see from the picture, it's that brachial cell is "pointed" posteriorly, i.e. that subdiscoideus and discocubitus (Townes' terminology) originate from the same point. Also, if, as it seems, hind wing lacks discoidella, Atrometus could be a good hypothesis. Filippo |
Autore: | civi [ 16/08/2016, 15:25 ] |
Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: Anomalon? |
Thanks Filippo. I wrote you PM. |
Autore: | D & JP Balmer [ 16/08/2016, 21:33 ] |
Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: Anomalon? |
Eopteryx ha scritto: It could be a female of Atrometus, but I don't have this genus in my collection, so it's impossible for me to be sure. What we can see from the picture, it's that brachial cell is "pointed" posteriorly, i.e. that subdiscoideus and discocubitus (Townes' terminology) originate from the same point. Also, if, as it seems, hind wing lacks discoidella, Atrometus could be a good hypothesis. Saluti,Filippo Yes for Atrometus insignis Forster 1878 Ciao. D & JP Balmer |
Autore: | civi [ 16/08/2016, 21:45 ] |
Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: Anomalon? |
Thank you for now Jean-Pierre! |
Autore: | D & JP Balmer [ 21/01/2019, 6:07 ] |
Oggetto del messaggio: | Perisphincter gracilicornis Schnee 1978 ♀ |
Eopteryx ha scritto: It could be a female of Atrometus, but I don't have this genus in my collection, so it's impossible for me to be sure. What we can see from the picture, it's that brachial cell is "pointed" posteriorly, i.e. that subdiscoideus and discocubitus (Townes' terminology) originate from the same point. Also, if, as it seems, hind wing lacks discoidella, Atrometus could be a good hypothesis. Eopteryx was right to be in doubt. This is a Perisphincter sp. (with long & thin Legs, while Atrometus has them shorter & thicker), I had trusted Townes 1971 who did not locate this Genus in Europe. ------------- gracilicornis : last 1/3 of dark brown to black Antennae, without yellow color brevicollis : Antennae with the last 1/3 pure yellow Of where the determination |
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