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Hello , I have this specimen from Romania, it was found in a wine bait trap. Any idea about the species name please?

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hi alexandru

you should re-prepare the specimen, with spread wings, examination of wing venation of both fore and hind wings is necessary even for genus determination

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maurizio

Thank you Maurizio , I will come back with better pictures of the wings, soon

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I hope the pictures are good enough now ....the lenght of the specimen is 7.5 mm.

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Siobla sp. but the black color (aberration or variety ?) of Antennae does not allow me to determine the species.

Thank you for your answer , but what about Ametastegia equiseti, it can't be this species?

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from the first pictures, this clearly appeared to be a Selandriinae (sensu berland, faune de france), not a Tenthredininae, thus not Siobla

3 submarginal cells in fore wing = not Allantus

i asked for a picture showing the hind wing, since i was in doubt between Taxonus (2 closed medial cells *) and Ametastegia (no closed medial cells)

* following the now obsolete berland's nomenclature yet i still have to learn the recent correct one

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maurizio

Many thanks again Maurizio

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