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Sympetrum sanguineum (Mϋller, 1764) ♀ - Odonata Anisoptera Libelluloidea Libellulidae
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Autore:  D & JP Balmer [ 23/08/2016, 13:45 ]
Oggetto del messaggio:  Sympetrum sanguineum (Mϋller, 1764) ♀ - Odonata Anisoptera Libelluloidea Libellulidae

Saluti,

22 VIII 2016 - Cne Menou (Dépt. Nièvre – France)
Capture in an humid forest - Altitude 287 m

Can you help me ?
Thank you.

Ciao.
D & JP Balmer

Allegati:
n° 5542 F (dorsal + latéral pars) - Lg. about 35 mm µµ - Odonata.jpg


Autore:  Magma [ 23/08/2016, 20:27 ]
Oggetto del messaggio:  Re: Odonata sp. to be determined.

It's a female of Sympetrum - Libellulidae. Could you please confirm that legs are completely black? If so, personally I think it's an old female of Sympetrum sanguineum (Mϋller, 1764).

Ciao, Matteo. :hi:

Autore:  D & JP Balmer [ 24/08/2016, 12:16 ]
Oggetto del messaggio:  Re: Odonata sp. to be determined.

Magma ha scritto:
It's a female of Sympetrum - Libellulidae. Could you please confirm that legs are completely black? If so, personally I think it's an old female of Sympetrum sanguineum (Mϋller, 1764).

Ciao, Matteo. :hi:
Saluti,

A Very Thanks for your identification.
See the photo joined here.

Ciao.
D & JP Balmer

Allegati:
n° 5542 (extrait) - DSCF0357 - h. 750.jpg


Autore:  Magma [ 24/08/2016, 21:12 ]
Oggetto del messaggio:  Re: Odonata sp. to be determined.

I think we could say they are black. :ok: Sympetrum species with black legs are four:
  • S. pedemontanum
  • S. danae
  • S. depressiusculum
  • S. sanguineum
but...
  • S. pedemontanum - has unmisteakable bands both in forewings and hindwings
  • S. danae - has distinctively black pattern in thorax and abdomen
  • S. depressiusculum - has different details in wings (5-7 cells below a vein called Rspl; in this specimen they are 4-5)
For theese reasons I confirm my proposal: S. sanguineum.

Ciao, Matteo.

Autore:  D & JP Balmer [ 24/08/2016, 23:18 ]
Oggetto del messaggio:  Re: Odonata sp. to be determined.

Saluti,

Thank you for your confirmation.

Ciao.
D & JP Balmer

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