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Autore: | cosmln [ 07/09/2010, 21:34 ] |
Oggetto del messaggio: | Pseudoophonus (Platus) calceatus (Duftschmid, 1812) - Carabidae |
Hi, Me again here with some beetle to ID. This carabids always puzzle me ![]() So... this one was collected in 1.august.2010 in Moldova (46.428056 / 26.440833), leg. Alexandru Pintilioaie (alexaandru), size is ~14 mm. Is possible to put an ID from photo? Grazie, cosmln |
Autore: | ricdoc57 [ 07/09/2010, 22:50 ] |
Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: ? - Carabidae, Romania |
To me it looks like Harpalus (Pseudohophonus) calceatus (Duftschmid, 1812). The species, previously attributed to the subg. Pardileus, is near H. rufipes, but with elytra completely glabrous and with blackish legs. Have a nice evening ![]() |
Autore: | gabrif [ 07/09/2010, 22:56 ] |
Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: ? - Carabidae, Romania |
Hello Cosmin, to me it looks very much like Pseudoophonus (Platus) calceatus (Duftschmid 1812). It should have 9th interval of elytra and part of 8th pubescent, not easy to see it in photo... Regards, Gabriele |
Autore: | cosmln [ 08/09/2010, 12:19 ] |
Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: ? - Carabidae, Romania |
I will try to make a photo from a ventral lateral angle to see better the elitra... I have not seen any pubescence there. cosmln |
Autore: | ricdoc57 [ 08/09/2010, 13:22 ] |
Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: ? - Carabidae, Romania |
Don't worry, it is certainly it, although we have used two different nomenclatures! ![]() Greetings ![]() |
Autore: | cosmln [ 08/09/2010, 13:42 ] |
Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: ? - Carabidae, Romania |
ricdoc57 ha scritto: Don't worry, it is certainly it, although we have used two different nomenclatures! ![]() Greetings ![]() Thanks a lot for all your help. Pseudoophonus (Platus) calceatus (Duftschmid 1812) is in FaunaEU and Harpalus (Pseudohophonus) calceatus (Duftschmid, 1812) in Lobl & Smetana... which one is accepted today? cosmln |
Autore: | ricdoc57 [ 08/09/2010, 17:57 ] |
Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: Harpalus (Pseudohophonus) calceatus (Duftschmid, 1812) - Carabidae - Romania |
Sorry, it was my mistake to write Pseudohophonus: the correct name is Pseudoophonus. The use of Pseudoophonus (Platus) calceatus (Duftschmid 1812) in FaunaEU derives from a more "splitting" vision of systematics, while that of Harpalus (Pseudohophonus) calceatus (Duftschmid, 1812) in Löbl & Smetana comes from a more "lumping" approach. I personally prefer to keep the Pseudoophonus-lineage separate from the "true" Harpalus, but it is a matter of personal preference. Really there is no general agreement about it. Greetings ![]() |
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