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Limodromus assimilis (Paykull, 1790) Species details

15.I.2011 - ROMANIA - EE, Romania: Moldova: near Iasi


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cosmln
PostPosted: 18/01/2011, 15:54 
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:hi:

anche quest stati raccolti sotto cortecia, vedi qui.

un nome e possible :?: (maschio e femmina :?: ) ... grazie.

raccolto nel 15.I.2010, Romania: Moldova: near Iasi, leg. Cosmin O. Manci, dimensioni ~13 mm.
anche genitalia stata preparata, se necessario faro qualche foto.

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PostPosted: 18/01/2011, 21:22 
 

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Hello Cosmin,

Limodromus assimilis (Paykull 1790)

Also there is no other Limodromus in Romania,as far as I know.
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Joro wrote:
Hello Cosmin,

Limodromus assimilis (Paykull 1790)

Also there is no other Limodromus in Romania,as far as I know.


thank Georgi,

so probably this (this is the same :oops: ), this and this are the same?
anyone has a pdf were genitalia for this species are illustrated?

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cosmln wrote:

thank Georgi,

so probably this (this is the same :oops: ), this and this are the same?
anyone has a pdf were genitalia for this species are illustrated?


metto questo di nuovo in vostra attenzione :D

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di nuovo ... :D metto questo in vostra attenzione :D

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e genitalia per questo:

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Ciao Cosmin,

per me è sempre Limodromus assimilis (Paykull 1790) :oops:

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k, now I have taken a look on [Heinz Freude, Karl-Wilhelm Harde & Gustav Adolf Lohse (eds.) 2004. Die Käfer Mitteleuropas, Band 2 (Carabidae) (2nd ed.)] ... see the crop from book ... and I will say that pronotum and genitalia in my eyes look like the one from L.krynickii.

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prnotum from the L.assmilis and this one.

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Really, L. krinickiii is a clearly larger and darker species, different from the one here represented. L. assimilis is a very widespread, common and variable species, so a considerable amount of variation can be observed, but the other species is really different. I am sorry.

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I don't try to argue with the proffessionals,I just want to note that you are comparing a male and a female specimen.

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ricdoc57 wrote:
Really, L. krinickiii is a clearly larger and darker species, different from the one here represented. L. assimilis is a very widespread, common and variable species, so a considerable amount of variation can be observed, but the other species is really different. I am sorry.

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I understand, grazie Riccardo

Joro wrote:
I don't try to argue with the proffessionals,I just want to note that you are comparing a male and a female specimen.

Regards,
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the two crop with pronotum are both from male specimens.

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ciao cosmin

Limodromus krynickii is not only a dark species with almost entirely blackish appendages (however, note that i'm not familiar with not fully mature specimens), usually it has less shining elytra because of stronger microsculpture, their shine is somewhat reminiscent of a male Anisodactylus binotatus

should this be of some interest for you, i have never found krynickii in woods far from water, or in hillsides; conversely, it is often more abundant than assimilis in floodplain woods, even small wooded patches or stripes, along the large rivers

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