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Autore: | zdeno [ 14/06/2015, 22:36 ] | ||
Oggetto del messaggio: | Lebia nigripes Dejean, 1825 - Carabidae | ||
Hi again. I m struggling with this one. Anyone ? Thanks ! ![]()
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Autore: | saperda [ 14/06/2015, 22:40 ] |
Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: Lebia |
Lebia cruxminor ![]() |
Autore: | zdeno [ 14/06/2015, 23:23 ] |
Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: Lebia |
Victor, cruxminor should have the first 3 antennal segments reddish and half femura/half tibia reddish too. Is that right ? |
Autore: | saperda [ 14/06/2015, 23:36 ] |
Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: Lebia |
Perhaps it is a color variation? ![]() |
Autore: | gomphus [ 15/06/2015, 10:23 ] |
Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: Lebia |
hi zdeno Lebia nigripes Dejean, 1825 formerly treated as ssp. of cruxminor, yet now recognized as distinct species (the two are largely allopatric, yet locally may also occur together) |
Autore: | zdeno [ 15/06/2015, 11:38 ] |
Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: Lebia nigripes Dejean, 1825 - Carabidae |
Hello Maurizio Nigripes was my closest much, but nigripes should have only 2 antennal segments red and is not listed for Greece. Maybe the reason is, that it was under cruxminor ? Thank you ! Ciao |
Autore: | strepens [ 15/06/2015, 23:13 ] |
Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: Lebia nigripes Dejean, 1825 - Carabidae |
Just now have checked the specimens of my collection: between the Lebia cruxminor from Greece, there is a typical specimen of L. nigripes !!! (NW Greece, near the border with Albania). Unfortunately from the Peloponnese, there are no specimens in my hands,from these 2 species... Goodnight from Athens, ![]() ![]() George |
Autore: | gomphus [ 15/06/2015, 23:37 ] |
Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: Lebia nigripes Dejean, 1825 - Carabidae |
L. nigripes was only recently recognized as distinct species, therefore several "cruxminor" records from southern europe clearly are in need of confirmation as for this specimen, with nigripes habitus, yet with 3 (not 2) basal antennomeres reddish, this may represent a local color variation, or conversely belong to a further, undescribed taxon within the cruxminor complex further studies, possibly together with additional material from peloponnese, will be required |
Autore: | saperda [ 16/06/2015, 1:26 ] |
Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: Lebia nigripes Dejean, 1825 - Carabidae |
But here this species as a synonym... http://carabidae.org/taxa/cruxminor-linne-1758 http://carabidae.org/taxa/cruxminor-cruxminor-s.str. |
Autore: | zdeno [ 16/06/2015, 23:40 ] |
Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: Lebia nigripes Dejean, 1825 - Carabidae |
Thanks for the input guys ! Maurizio > ![]() And if someone wants to play with it or use it for some reference, PM me. Ciao ciao |
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