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| Autore: | strepens [ 22/02/2021, 23:49 ] | ||
| Oggetto del messaggio: | Glycia spencei (Gistel, 1838) - Carabidae | ||
Unique specimen, was found under a stone, together with a pair of elytrae from a dead individual. In a coastal, brackish wetland, alt. about 0 m. Length 9.6 mm. A species with many synonyms: Glycia ornata (Klug, 1832) = Glycia spencei (Gistel, 1838) = Glycia karelini Motschulsky, 1844 = Neotarus krueperi Rtt. 1884.
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| Autore: | elleelle [ 23/02/2021, 9:33 ] |
| Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: Glycia ornata (Klug, 1832) |
What is the difference between Glycia an Drypta? |
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| Autore: | strepens [ 23/02/2021, 14:59 ] |
| Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: Glycia ornata (Klug, 1832) |
- 1st antennal segment very long, about as long as the next 4 segments together. 4th tarsal segment with deep incision, strongly heart-shaped. Claws smooth ................................................. Drypta - 1st antennal segment clearly smaller proportionally. 4th tarsal segment with shallow incision, slightly heart-shaped. Claws pectinate ............................................... Glycia  George |
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| Autore: | gomphus [ 25/02/2021, 11:10 ] |
| Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: Glycia ornata (Klug, 1832) |
according to arndt & al., ground beetles of greece, this is Glycia spencei (Gistel, 1838); G. ornata is a different species, and does not occur in greece (or elsewhere in europe) p.s. strepens ha scritto: elleelle ha scritto: What is the difference between Glycia an Drypta? - 1st antennal segment very long, about as long as the next 4 segments together. 4th tarsal segment with deep incision, strongly heart-shaped. Claws smooth ................................................. Drypta - 1st antennal segment clearly smaller proportionally. 4th tarsal segment with shallow incision, slightly heart-shaped. Claws pectinate ............................................... Glycia also  :- pronotum with distinct lateral edge and lateral groove, as usual within Carabidae ............... Glycia - pronotum dorso-ventrally rounded, with no lateral edge or lateral groove ............. Drypta |
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| Autore: | ricdoc57 [ 25/02/2021, 13:36 ] |
| Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: Glycia spencei (Gistel, 1838) - Carabidae |
And what about the mandibles? Does anybody mention them? The mandibles are very elongate in Drypta and of normal length in Glycia. And this is by far the first character that appears even at first sight.
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| Autore: | gomphus [ 26/02/2021, 23:37 ] |
| Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: Glycia spencei (Gistel, 1838) - Carabidae |
ricdoc57 ha scritto: And what about the mandibles? Does anybody mention them? The mandibles are very elongate in Drypta and of normal length in Glycia. And this is by far the first character that appears even at first sight. 
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| Autore: | elleelle [ 27/02/2021, 12:20 ] | ||
| Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: Glycia spencei (Gistel, 1838) - Carabidae | ||
Actually mine was a rather silly question ......  Here is my Drypta. Thank you to all.
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