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Hello everyone!
Today I present a mini photo-story showing my meetings with Prinobius myardi slamorum DANILEVSKY, 2012 in Greece.

Most of the specimens (approximately 30 exx.) I watched the evening and at night with lanterns and with other artificial light.

Prinobius myardi salmorum:
Greece, the base of the mountains Ossa, Kokkino Nero
07-17 VII 2013, 28 VI - 02 VII 2014
Leg, det. A. Woźniak

slamorum ???




why ?

According to Danilevsky 2012 there are 5 subspecies Prinobius myardi:
- P. myardi atropos
- P. myardi gaubilii
- P. myardi myardi
- P. myardi proksi
- P. myardi slamorum - has just this subspecies in mainland Greece.

I know, Zdeno, I know.
Do not worry about it.
I know your opinion on this subject.

Most importantly, the beetle is nice, right?

Sure they are nice !

Adam do you have the paper describing all this subspecies?
It seems to me strange too...

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Marci
"S'i fosse fuoco, arderei 'l mondo,
S'i fosse vento, lo tempesterei,
S'i fosse acqua, i' l'annegherei
s'i fosse dio, mandereil' en profondo" ( Cecco Angiolieri).

Hi Adam,
In Italy what does subspecies occur?

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"L' uomo che è cieco alle bellezze della natura ha perduto metà del piacere di vivere"
Sir Robert Baden Powell

Giovanni Altadonna

E poi dicevano di Pic...mah....Giovanni in Italia c'è la forma tipica.

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Marci
"S'i fosse fuoco, arderei 'l mondo,
S'i fosse vento, lo tempesterei,
S'i fosse acqua, i' l'annegherei
s'i fosse dio, mandereil' en profondo" ( Cecco Angiolieri).

Mah...una bestia così di bocca buona e cosi diffusa e anche una buon volatrice...perchè mai dovrebbe fare così tante sottospecie? Poi non ho esaminato nulla e quindi non contesto niente, ma qualche perplessità mi viene.

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Riccardo Poloni
La dignità degli elementi
la libertà della poesia,
al di là dei tradimenti degli uomini
è magia, è magia, è magia...
Negrita, Rotolando verso sud

Dear Colleagues!
Their knowledge about Prinobius myardi slamorum DANILEVSKY, 2012 I lean on this publication:

Additions and corrections to the new Catalogue of Palaearctic Cerambycidae (Coleoptera) edited by I. Löbl and A. Smetana, 2010. Part. V.M.L. Danilevsky - Humanity space International almanac VOL. 1, No 3, 2012: 695-741

Below I quote an excerpt from this publication (s. 698, 699), which is important for our discussion:

"(...)
6. pages 90-91
PRINTED:
myardi atropos Chevrolat, 1854: 482 A: CY IS JO LE SY
- cedri Marseul, 1856: 48
myardi myardi Mulsant, 1842a: 207 E: AL BH BU CR FR GG GR IT PT SP TR UK YU N: AG EG LB MO TU A: IN TR
-abscisus Gilmour, 1954: 27 (Macrotoma)
-gaubilii Chevrolat, 1859b: cxxxv
-goudotii Chevrolat, 1859c: ccxxx
-lethifer Fairmaire, 1859c: cxxxviii
-scutellaris Germar, 1817: 219 [HN] (Prionus)
myardi proksi Sláma, 1982: 203 E: GR (Kríti)
MUST BE:
myardi atropos Chevrolat, 1854: 482 A: CY IS JO LE SY TR
-cedri Marseul, 1856: 48
myardi gaubilii Chevrolat, 1859b: cxxxv N: AG EG LB MO TU
-goudotii Chevrolat, 1859c: ccxxx
-lethifer Fairmaire, 1859c: cxxxviii
myardi myardi Mulsant, 1842a: 207 E: FR PT SP
-abscisus Gilmour, 1954: 27 (Macrotoma)
-germari Mulsant, 1846: 291
myardi proksi Sláma, 1982: 203 E: GR (Kríti)
myardi slamorum nom. nov. [RN] E: AL BH BU CR GG GR IT TR UK YU A: IN TR
scutellaris Germar, 1817: 219 [HN] (Prionus)
NOTE:
According to the investigation of several hundreds of specimens by Sláma & Slámová (1996) with special attention to the “very different form of genitals” 5 subspecies must be delimited: first “from “Italy and Balkan”, “the second subspecies from France and Spain”, “the third subspecies from south-east Turkey, Syria and Israel”, “the fourth subspecies from Algeria and the fifth subspecies from Crete”. All five are now accepted with corresponding names. Sláma & Slámová (1996) use for the first subspecies the name “Macrotoma s. scutellaris (Germar)”, which is a junior homonym.
Prinobius myardi slamorum nom. nov. is proposed here as a replacement name. Such a system does not include poorly investigated populations from Bulgaria, European Turkey, Crimea, Georgia, most part of Anatolia (from Agean seaboard to Artvin) and Iran. All of them are preliminary joined to Balkanian subspecies P. m. slamorum nom. nov.
(...)"

Anyone who reads it, he can think what he wants...

PS.
Giovanni, as we can see, on the basis of this publication, in Italy there is Prinobius myardi ssp. slamorum.