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Greece,W Larissa,Pinias(Piniada),10mm

Nobody ? Nobody likes Dorcadions

My...more than a tip is : Cribridorcadion krueperi (Ganglbauer, 1883)

I like Dorcadion, but I don't know them well

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Riccardo Poloni
La dignità degli elementi
la libertà della poesia,
al di là dei tradimenti degli uomini
è magia, è magia, è magia...
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Dear friends,
I think it is not possible to give a reliable determination of one Dorcadion based on a picture.
This specimen could even be Dorcadion (Pedestredorcadion) krueperi Ganglbauer, 1884 (not 1883), but such an elytral pattern is shared by different species from Greece.
Please note - I do not accept the synonymy between Pedestredorcadion and Cribridorcadion since based on a single character examined on a too small number of species (less than 30% of described species; less than 10% of 75 taxa from Iberian Peninsula). Pedestredorcadion has recently been correctly restored from synonymy with Cribridorcadion (Pesarini & Sabbadini, 2010); both taxa are regarded as subgenera of Dorcadion.

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Gianfranco Sama

"Benedetto colui che ti aiuta a correggere i tuoi errori invece di scagliarteli contro"
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Gershom Sholem

Riccardo, let` s start with them ! We need more people who gonna do some seriously work. That` s why is in here so big mess...


Gianfranco, after a couple of days playing with Ivos` s picture deduced this end. Sure it could be something else, but I would say, its Pedestredorcadion krueperi.

Gianfranco, I m waiting for that Andrea`s work. Cant wait what they` ve done.

Ciao