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Autore:  Drymochares [ 12/12/2010, 13:41 ]
Oggetto del messaggio:  Tragosoma pilosicorne (Casey, 1890) Cerambycidae Prioninae

NA,CA,Madera Co.
Coarsegold 29.6.2010
Leg.W.Tyson


These Tragosoma is smaller. My specimens are about 21-25mm.

Allegati:
Tragosoma pilosicorne 3.JPG


Autore:  Drymochares [ 26/12/2010, 11:01 ]
Oggetto del messaggio:  Re: Tragosoma pilosicorne (Casey, 1890) Cerambycidae - Prioninae - USA

Hi all,
I have a some species Tragosoma from USA.
And I heard, that Tragosoma depsarium is not life in USA. Only another species Tragosoma....Is it really or no?
Do you know someone, what species live in there?

Sorry Riccardo, I forgot on it.
Tragosoma - USA
NA,CA,El Dorado Co.
Tahoe Paradise
1.8.2010 6300
Lgt. W.Tyson

Tragosoma depsarium - Europe
Osterreich, Willach 18Km on west,1360 m.
VII.2010
Lgt.Fiala L.
Tragosoma from USA.
This species I got how Tragosoma depsarium.

Tragosoma from USA..JPG

Tragosome depsarium from EUROPE-Osterreich.
Tragosoma from Europa.JPG


Autore:  Plagionotus [ 26/12/2010, 12:50 ]
Oggetto del messaggio:  Re: Tragosoma pilosicorne (Casey, 1890) Cerambycidae - Prioninae - USA

Excuse me, can you put the locality?

Autore:  Drymochares [ 26/12/2010, 14:05 ]
Oggetto del messaggio:  Re: Tragosoma pilosicorne (Casey, 1890) Cerambycidae - Prioninae - USA

Sorry Riccardo, I forgot on it.
Tragosoma - USA
NA,CA,El Dorado Co.
Tahoe Paradise
1.8.2010 6300
Lgt. W.Tyson

Tragosoma depsarium - Europe
Osterreich, Willach 18Km on west,1360 m.
VII.2010
Lgt.Fiala L.

Bye

Autore:  Plagionotus [ 26/12/2010, 15:01 ]
Oggetto del messaggio:  Re: Tragosoma pilosicorne (Casey, 1890) Cerambycidae - Prioninae - USA

Don't worry, you aren't the just person who has do it :ok: :ok:

Autore:  Drymochares [ 27/12/2010, 8:52 ]
Oggetto del messaggio:  Re: Tragosoma pilosicorne (Casey, 1890) Cerambycidae - Prioninae - USA

Plagionotus ha scritto:
Don't worry, you aren't the just person who has do it :ok: :ok:


I hope. :birra:

Autore:  Isotomus [ 27/12/2010, 9:52 ]
Oggetto del messaggio:  Re: Tragosoma pilosicorne (Casey, 1890) Cerambycidae - Prioninae - USA

Drymochares ha scritto:
Hi all,
I have a some species Tragosoma from USA.
And I heard, that Tragosoma depsarium is not life in USA. Only another species Tragosoma....Is it really or no?
Do you know someone, what species live in there?
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Dear Lukas, I do not know if you have the new Catalogue of Loebl & Smetana. The chapter "NEW NOMENCLATURAL and TAXONOMIC ACTS, and COMMENTS" includes the following note:

Cerambycidae: Prioninae: Tragosoma
S. Laplante
Tragosoma depsarium (Linnaeus, 1767), currently held for a Holarctic species, is actually restricted to the Palaearctic region, based on a review of the world species of the genus, including a study of the available type specimens of the taxa involved (Laplante, in preparation). None of the North American taxa previously considered as synonyms of T. depsarium (i.e. T. harrisii LeConte, 1851; T. spiculum Casey, 1890; T. sodale Casey, 1899; T. parvicolle Casey, 1899 and T. repens Casey, 1924) are conspecific with T. depsarium.

I do not have further news about this study.

Autore:  Drymochares [ 27/12/2010, 10:29 ]
Oggetto del messaggio:  Re: Tragosoma pilosicorne (Casey, 1890) Cerambycidae - Prioninae - USA

Dear Gianfranco,
thanks! Yeas, I have this book. But so far a short time. :oops:
Probably I missed it. Sorry.

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