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| Autore: | Baris99 [ 07/06/2017, 22:52 ] | |||
| Oggetto del messaggio: | Agapanthia lederi Ganglbauer, 1883 - Cerambycidae | |||
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| Autore: | Plagionotus [ 08/06/2017, 14:27 ] |
| Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: Agapanthia simplicicornis or even A. markusi?? |
I'm not very familiar with turkish fauna, but in my opinion this is an old specimen of Agapanthia cynarae. A. simplicicornis belongs to the Epoptes subgenus but has red-coloured antennae, and Agapanthia marcusi has a different pubescens. In addition, other Epoptes are present in Turkey, but most of them are similar in morphology to the dahli group. |
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| Autore: | Baris99 [ 08/06/2017, 17:16 ] |
| Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: Agapanthia simplicicornis or even A. markusi?? |
I have excluded A. cynarae because of the very broad light colour of the 3. antennal segment. But it seems I was wrong. Thank you alot for the ID and help. |
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| Autore: | mcer [ 08/06/2017, 20:05 ] | ||
| Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: Agapanthia simplicicornis or even A. markusi?? | ||
This is certainly not Agapanthia cynarae.
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| Autore: | Baris99 [ 08/06/2017, 20:39 ] |
| Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: Agapanthia simplicicornis or even A. markusi?? |
Well, I have used the identification in the following paper: http://www.cerambyx.uochb.cz/assets/pdf ... thiini.pdf I have reached to A. simplicicornis. If it is not A. simplicicornis, there are 3 options: 1. I cannot follow the key properly 2. It is a new species for the Turkish fauna 3. A new species |
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| Autore: | mcer [ 08/06/2017, 21:10 ] |
| Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: Agapanthia simplicicornis or even A. markusi?? |
In my opinion it is close to Agapanthia lederi. I do not know Turkish Agapanthia well, but most species have red antennae. Wait for Pierpaolo 
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| Autore: | Plagionotus [ 09/06/2017, 11:27 ] |
| Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: Agapanthia simplicicornis or even A. markusi?? |
mcer ha scritto: In my opinion it is close to Agapanthia lederi. I do not know Turkish Agapanthia well, but most species have red antennae. Wait for Pierpaolo Exactly, one of the species with grey antennae is A. cynarae, but not A. simplicicornis. @Baris: the keys, if you follow them from a too far taxon, frequently lead to a wrong identification, but you could be right! |
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| Autore: | Xylosteus [ 09/06/2017, 16:03 ] |
| Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: Agapanthia simplicicornis or even A. markusi?? |
I agree with Marcin. It is something close to Agapanthia lederi. Pierpaolo |
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| Autore: | Baris99 [ 10/06/2017, 7:07 ] |
| Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: Agapanthia simplicicornis or even A. markusi?? |
Thank you alot all for the help. So it is something close to A. lederi but not A. lederi  I guess it is not possible to be sure of a species based on these photos.
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