Forum Entomologi Italiani

Grecia: M.te Ossa vers.est 22 VI 2010

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Marci
"S'i fosse fuoco, arderei 'l mondo,
S'i fosse vento, lo tempesterei,
S'i fosse acqua, i' l'annegherei
s'i fosse dio, mandereil' en profondo" ( Cecco Angiolieri).

I think,that the first specimen in your picture looks like Vadonia bisignata (Brulle, 1832) and a second exemplar looks like a black aberration Vadonia insidiosa (Holzschuh, 1984). I have a more Vadonia insidiosa from Greece (Spillia Ossa Oros) and some pieces are all black. This is only my opinion. Vadonie is difficult to determine from photos. We prefer to wait for what he says Isotomus (Gianfranco Sama).

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Lukas

This photograph is better now, but these specimens must be examined under a binocular

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Gianfranco Sama

"Benedetto colui che ti aiuta a correggere i tuoi errori invece di scagliarteli contro"
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Gershom Sholem