Hello,
I would like help with identification of the specie.
Thank you.
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| Autore: | Tekilay [ 23/03/2022, 23:12 ] | ||||
| Oggetto del messaggio: | Lilioceris faldermanni (Guérin, 1829) - Chrysomelidae | ||||
Hello, I would like help with identification of the specie. Thank you.
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| Autore: | Lucanus tetraodon [ 23/03/2022, 23:17 ] |
| Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: ????? |
It seems to be Lilioceris lilii (Scopoli, 1763) - Chrysomelidae |
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| Autore: | Tekilay [ 24/03/2022, 0:14 ] |
| Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: ????? |
Lucanus tetraodon ha scritto: It seems to be Lilioceris lilii (Scopoli, 1763) - Chrysomelidae Thank you Giovanni, It appears to be among the 3 species in the Turkey Checklist.   L. merdigera / L. lilii / L. faldermanni https://www.researchgate.net/publication/263075349_Checklist_of_leaf_beetles_Coleoptera_Chrysomelidae_of_Turkey_excluding_Bruchinae That day, I went out to look for Fritillaria in the valley and couldn't find it. Looks like I found the one that ate Fritillaria leaves instead. 
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| Autore: | Davide Ambrosioni [ 24/03/2022, 8:04 ] |
| Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: ????? |
It is not L. lilii, that has full black legs, but L. merdigera. 
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| Autore: | Lech Borowiec [ 24/03/2022, 8:43 ] |
| Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: ????? |
This is Lilioceris faldermanni due to the completely red apex of femora and whole tibiae. Lilioceris merdigera has blackish knee. Lilioceris faldermenni has head entirely red while in L. merdigera usually labrum and often clypeus are more or less obscure to blackish. Compare L. merdigera: http://www.cassidae.uni.wroc.pl/Colpolo ... digera.htm and L. faldermanni: http://www.cassidae.uni.wroc.pl/Europea ... rmanni.htm (this is photo of yellow specimen but usually this sp[ecies is as red colored as L. merdigera). |
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| Autore: | Tekilay [ 26/03/2022, 21:17 ] |
| Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: ????? |
Lech Borowiec ha scritto: This is Lilioceris faldermanni due to the completely red apex of femora and whole tibiae. Lilioceris merdigera has blackish knee. Lilioceris faldermenni has head entirely red while in L. merdigera usually labrum and often clypeus are more or less obscure to blackish. Compare L. merdigera: http://www.cassidae.uni.wroc.pl/Colpolo ... digera.htm and L. faldermanni: http://www.cassidae.uni.wroc.pl/Europea ... rmanni.htm (this is photo of yellow specimen but usually this sp[ecies is as red colored as L. merdigera). Hello Lech, Thank you very much for your detailed correction with photos. Even I, who is not an expert, got it. If I encounter this species again and forget this detail, I will return and look here.Thanks to you too Davide.
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