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				Guido Sabatinelli
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					 Inviato: 09/07/2014, 17:36   | 
				 
				 
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					 Iscritto il: 28/08/2009, 13:45 Messaggi: 1947 Località: Ginevra, Svizzera
						 Nome: Guido Sabatinelli
					
				
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				Honza
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					 Inviato: 09/07/2014, 19:19   | 
				 
				 
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					 Iscritto il: 09/11/2009, 14:12 Messaggi: 5145 Località: Hradec Kralove,Czech republik
						 Nome: Jan Matějíček
					
				
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						 IRAN, ISLAMIC REPUBLIC 
  g. PROTAETIA Burmeister 1842
  sbg. Calopotosia Reitter, 1898 ignisternum Reitter, 1891	
  sbg. Cetonischema Miksic, 1963 speciosa ssp. cyanochlora Schauer, 1941	 
  sbg. Eupotosia Miksic, 1954 			 affinis ssp. pseudospeciosa Miksic, 1957	
  sbg. Netocia Costa, 1852 			 aethiessina Reitter, 1891							 hungarica ssp. persica Kraatz, 1886		 schelkovnikovi Zaitzev, 1918	
  sbg. Potosia Mulsant & Rey, 1871 			 hieroglyphica Menetries, 1832 
					
						 _________________ Research Fields Taxonomy, ecology, biomonitoring , faunistic of Staphylinidae 
					
  
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				Guido Sabatinelli
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					 Inviato: 09/07/2014, 22:27   | 
				 
				 
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					 Iscritto il: 28/08/2009, 13:45 Messaggi: 1947 Località: Ginevra, Svizzera
						 Nome: Guido Sabatinelli
					
				
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						Honza ha scritto: IRAN, ISLAMIC REPUBLIC  g. PROTAETIA Burmeister 1842 sbg. Calopotosia Reitter, 1898 ignisternum Reitter, 1891	 sbg. Cetonischema Miksic, 1963 speciosa ssp. cyanochlora Schauer, 1941	  sbg. Eupotosia Miksic, 1954 			 affinis ssp. pseudospeciosa Miksic, 1957	 sbg. Netocia Costa, 1852 			 aethiessina Reitter, 1891							 hungarica ssp. persica Kraatz, 1886		 schelkovnikovi Zaitzev, 1918	 sbg. Potosia Mulsant & Rey, 1871 			 hieroglyphica Menetries, 1832 But some new species were described few years ago from Iran by French entomologists, I think.  
					
  
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					 Inviato: 10/07/2014, 5:58   | 
				 
				 
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					 Iscritto il: 09/11/2009, 14:12 Messaggi: 5145 Località: Hradec Kralove,Czech republik
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					 Inviato: 10/07/2014, 14:11   | 
				 
				 
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					 Iscritto il: 28/08/2009, 13:45 Messaggi: 1947 Località: Ginevra, Svizzera
						 Nome: Guido Sabatinelli
					
				
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						 Dear Jan, according to MAREK BUNALSKI1, NAJMEH SAMIN,HASSAN GHAHARI, TREVOR J. HAWKESWOOD:  Contributions to the knowledge the scarab beetles of Golestan province, Northern Iran with checklist of Iranian Scarabaeoidea (Coleoptera), P O L I S H  J O U R N A L  O F  E N T O M O L O G Y, VOL. 83: 141–170 Lublin 30 June 2014
  This is the checklist of the Cetoniini of Iran, quite large number of species ans soubspecie, some of them of very "ligh value"...
  Subfamily: Cetoniinae LEACH, 1815 Tribe: Cetoniini LEACH, 1815 Genus: Aethiessa BURMEISTER, 1842 * inhumata (GORY et PERCHERON, 1833) * mesopotamica BURMEISTER, 1842 * zarudnyi KISERITZKY, 1910 Genus: Cetonia FABRICIUS, 1775 Subgenus: Cetonia FABRICIUS, 1775 * aeratula REITTER, 1891 * aurata aurata (LINNAEUS, 1761) * aurata pallida (DRURY, 1773) * sexguttata OLSOUFIEFF, 1916 Genus: Heterocnemis ALBERS, 1853 Subgenus: Celidotella REITTER, 1909 * matthiesseni (REITTER, 1909) Genus: Oxythyrea MULSANT, 1842 * cinctella cinctella (SCHAUM, 1841) * cinctella taftanensis MONTREUIL et LEGRAND, 2008 * funesta (PODA, 1761) Genus: Protaetia BURMEISTER, 1842 Subgenus: Cetonischema REITTER, 1898 * speciosa cyanochlora (SCHAUER, 1841) * speciosa jousselini (GORY et PERCHERON, 1833) * speciosa speciosa (ADAMS, 1817) Subgenus: Eupotosia MIKŠIĆ, 1954 * affinis affinis (ANDERSCH, 1797) * affinis pseudospeciosa (MEDVEDEV, 1964) * affinis pyrodera (REITTER, 1891) Subgenus: Netocia COSTA, 1852 * aethiessina (REITTER, 1891) * araratica (REITTER, 1891) * asiatica (FALDERMANN, 1835) * golestanica (ALEXIS et DELPONT, 2001) * jakli (MONTREUIL et LEGRAND, 2008) comb. nov. * karbalayei (ALEXIS et DELPONT, 2001) * khorasanica (MONTREUIL et LEGRAND, 2008) comb. nov. * schelkovnikovi (ZAITZEV, 1918) * subpilosa (DESBROCHERS, 1869) * trojana godeti (GORY et PERCHERON, 1833) * ungarica armeniaca (MÉNÉTRIES, 1832) * ungarica auliensis (REITTER, 1901) * ungarica ignisternum (REITTER, 1891) * ungarica persica (KRAATZ, 1886) * vidua (GORY et PERCHERON, 1833) * zagrosica (ALEXIS et DELPONT, 2001) Subgenus: Potosia MULSANT et REY, 1971 * cuprea caucasica (KOLENATI, 1846) * cuprea mehrabii (MONTREUIL et LEGRAND, 2008) comb. nov. * flutschiana (MONTREUIL et LEGRAND, 2008) comb. nov. * funebris funebris (GORY et PERCHERON, 1833) * hieroglyphica depressiuscula (REITTER, 1891) * hieroglyphica hieroglyphica (MÉNÉTRIES, 1832) * keithi (MONTREUIL et LEGRAND, 2008) comb. nov. * splendidula diademata (REITTER, 1898) * splendidula kermanensis (MONTREUIL et LEGRAND, 2008) comb. nov. * splendidula splendidula (FALDERMANN, 1835) Genus: Stalagmosoma BURMEISTER, 1842 * albellum (PALLAS, 1781) Genus: Tropinota MULSANT, 1842 Subgenus: Epicometis BURMEISTER, 1842 * hirta suturalis REITTER, 1913 * senicula (MÉNÉTRIES, 1832) * spinifrons REITTER, 1889 * turanica REITTER, 1889 * villiersis BARAUD, 1984 Subgenus: Tropinota MULSANT, 1842 * squalida pilosa (BRULLÉ, 1832) 
					
						_________________ Guido SabatinelliMuseo di storia naturale, Ginevra, Svizzerahttp://www.glaphyridae.comhttp://www.scarabeidi.it 
					
  
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				Entomofou
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					 Inviato: 16/07/2014, 15:40   | 
				 
				 
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					 Iscritto il: 18/01/2011, 9:45 Messaggi: 359 Località: France (Limousin - Haute Vienne)
						 Nome: Stéphane Vassel
					
				
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						 I will check my collection next week... Have you a male with an aedeagus'photo ? 
					
  
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				Guido Sabatinelli
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					 Inviato: 09/09/2014, 9:25   | 
				 
				 
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					 Iscritto il: 28/08/2009, 13:45 Messaggi: 1947 Località: Ginevra, Svizzera
						 Nome: Guido Sabatinelli
					
				
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						Entomofou ha scritto: I will check my collection next week... Have you a male with an aedeagus'photo ? Pas de males...., merci  
					
  
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					 Inviato: 09/09/2014, 19:51   | 
				 
				 
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					 Iscritto il: 07/07/2014, 21:24 Messaggi: 69
						 Nome: Tigran Kredjyan
					
				
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						  This interesting pattern is apparently Protaetia (Potosia) hieroglyphica depresiuscula (Reitter 1891) This is evidenced by the large size of the prosternum and coarse punctures on the prothorax. A fact indirectly indicates that the beetle set of Abr. Subspecies depresiuscula is a resident of the mountain forests (according Medvedev S.I.)  
					
  
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				Guido Sabatinelli
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					 Inviato: 14/09/2014, 21:58   | 
				 
				 
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					 Iscritto il: 28/08/2009, 13:45 Messaggi: 1947 Località: Ginevra, Svizzera
						 Nome: Guido Sabatinelli
					
				
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						Entomofou ha scritto: I will check my collection next week... Have you a male with an aedeagus'photo ? YES! I found an other specimen and it is a male! 
			From Iran, Mazandaran: Kiyasar, leg. Daniele Baiocchi
		
			 
		
		
	  
					
						
  
						
					
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					 Inviato: 14/09/2014, 22:45   | 
				 
				 
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					 Iscritto il: 07/07/2014, 21:24 Messaggi: 69
						 Nome: Tigran Kredjyan
					
				
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						 Personally, I have almost no doubt about the ownership of these samples to P.hieroglyphica (ssp. depressiuscula) New photographs can be clearly seen. 1 Skulptura elytraes coarsely punctured .... yes 2 White spots are narrow and have a large scatter ... yeah. 3 process of mesothorax has almost trugolnuyu form the "heart" .... yes 4 has a coarse punctures of the major points on the pronotum ... yes 5 vertex parameres "narrowed", the middle part is wider and the profile is narrow .... yes
  All of these features are either absent. or are very weak in P. cuprea or P.cuprina. Question by ssp.remain is not yet resolved. Exemplar by Guido inhabited too area from ssp. depresiuscula, but color from this exemplars not like the  coloring depressiuscula s.str. rather resembling the nominate subspecies. Color not fixed indication, it must be borne in mind. Look at photo. Morphological details from P. hieroglyiphica. 
					
						
  
						
					
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