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Autore: | Guido Sabatinelli [ 09/07/2014, 17:36 ] | ||
Oggetto del messaggio: | Protaetia (Netocia) hungarica pseudoviridiana (Medvedev, 1947) - Cetoniidae | ||
Netocia ungarica ssp.?
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Autore: | Honza [ 09/07/2014, 19:26 ] |
Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: Scarabaeoidae, Cetoniinae |
hungarica ssp. persica Kraatz, 1886 |
Autore: | Guido Sabatinelli [ 09/07/2014, 22:21 ] |
Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: Scarabaeoidae, Cetoniinae |
Honza ha scritto: hungarica ssp. persica Kraatz, 1886 Thanks Jan. What is correct now hungarica or ungarica? The ssp. is without the white spots but it is not the same for the ssp. armeniaca. Since I am sure you have all in your collection, can you please present a picture of P. hungarica and its ssp.? Thanks |
Autore: | Honza [ 10/07/2014, 6:19 ] | ||
Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: Scarabaeoidae, Cetoniinae | ||
Protaetia (Netocia) hungarica Herbst, 1790 hungarica Herbst, 1790.................C. Europe, S. Europe quadriguttata Motschulsky, 1845; ungarica auct.; viridis Fabricius, 1792 hungarica ssp. anatolica Medvedev, 1947...............Turkey hungarica ssp. armeniaca Menetries, 1832...........................Transcaucasia hungarica ssp. auliensis Reitter, 1901......................S. Kasakhstan cirsii Motschulsky, 1845 hungarica ssp. coerulea Petrovitz, 1967 ................................Turkey hungarica ssp. ignisternum Reitter, 1891................................Iran hungarica ssp. ignithorax Reitter, 1891.............................Transcaucasia hungarica ssp. inderiensis Krynicki, 1832....................Kasakhstan, Altai zoubkovii Faldemann, 1836 hungarica ssp. lucina Reitter, 1898...................................Transcaucasia hungarica ssp. mongolica Reitter, 1898....................Mongolia hungarica ssp. paulina Reitter 1898........................Turkey hungarica ssp. persica Kraatz, 1886.........................Iran, Iraq hungarica ssp. pseudoviridana Medvedev,1947 ....................Transcaspia hungarica ssp. sibirica Gebler, 1829 ..........................Siberia, Mongolia hungarica ssp. simplex Schilsky, 1888 ......................Austria hungarica ssp.viridana Brulle, 1832................................Greece in the collection I only this subspecies see photo
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Autore: | Entomofou [ 16/07/2014, 15:44 ] |
Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: Scarabaeoidae, Cetoniinae |
Soms photos on my blog : P. persica P. ungarica with some subspecies I have to make a lot of new fotos for illustration of variations and other subspecies... |
Autore: | Guido Sabatinelli [ 09/09/2014, 9:23 ] |
Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: Scarabaeoidae, Cetoniinae |
per favore cambiare il titolo a Protaetia (Netocia) hungarica ssp. persica Kraatz, 1886, Grazie, Guido |
Autore: | Entomofou [ 09/09/2014, 21:41 ] |
Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: Protaetia (Netocia) hungarica ssp. persica Kraatz, 1886 - Cetoniinae |
The more I see this specimen, the less I think it is P. persica. many things don't match : the look of the suture between mesosternal process and mesosternum which should be irregular, the mesosternum which is not enough punctuated, etc... Tigran, have you an idea about this specimen ? |
Autore: | gelkush [ 09/09/2014, 23:39 ] |
Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: Protaetia (Netocia) hungarica ssp. persica Kraatz, 1886 - Cetoniinae |
Dear Stephane, confused sculpture upper side elytra and pronotum punctures. Do peach body wider elytra smoother. in the same way I look at prosternum. In P. persica he is big, round and covered with hairs ( unstable mark). Another important trait. P. persica body looks "short" as if "square." Elytra more smooth, with little wrinkled. According to this beetle conceptualy similar to P. hungarica armeniaca.Very similar sample I caught at the south of Armenia. But also analyze its exemplar of catching area, I conclude that the beetle is likely P. (Netocia) hungarica pseudoviridiana (Medvedev, 1947). |
Autore: | Guido Sabatinelli [ 10/09/2014, 11:50 ] |
Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: Protaetia (Netocia) hungarica ssp. persica Kraatz, 1886 - Cetoniinae |
contrordine Compagni, per favore rinominiamo come Protaetia (Netocia) hungarica ssp. pseudoviridiana (Medvedev, 1947) Grazie, Guido |
Autore: | Michael [ 26/09/2014, 19:08 ] |
Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: Protaetia (Netocia) hungarica pseudoviridiana (Medvedev, 1947) - Cetoniidae |
Perché è tra i carabi? ![]() |
Autore: | Fumea crassiorella [ 26/09/2014, 19:12 ] |
Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: Protaetia (Netocia) hungarica pseudoviridiana (Medvedev, 1947) - Cetoniidae |
Michael ha scritto: Perché è tra i carabi? ![]() Ora è corretto ![]() ![]() |
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