Looks like Lucanus laticornis???
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| Autore: | ozgur70 [ 20/08/2017, 21:50 ] | |||
| Oggetto del messaggio: | Lucanus (Lucanus) cervus turcicus Sturm, 1843 - Lucanidae | |||
Looks like Lucanus laticornis??? Need your opinions... Thanks
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| Autore: | Lucanus tetraodon [ 20/08/2017, 23:15 ] |
| Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: Lucanus |
Hi, it seems to be a male of Lucanus cervus turcicus Sturm, 1843, for the locality and the antennal club of six segments. PS L. laticornis should be simply a synonym of L. cervus turcicus. |
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| Autore: | ozgur70 [ 20/08/2017, 23:31 ] |
| Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: Lucanus |
Lucanus tetraodon ha scritto: Hi, it seems to be a male of Lucanus cervus turcicus Sturm, 1843, for the locality and the antennal club of six segments. PS L. laticornis should be simply a synonym of L. cervus turcicus. Thanks Giovanni. I find an article about Lucanus in Turkey and there is no Lucanus cervus turcicus... Is there any change of names? https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Ar ... Turkey.pdf Best regards. |
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| Autore: | Julodis [ 21/08/2017, 7:29 ] |
| Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: Lucanus |
ozgur70 ha scritto: Lucanus tetraodon ha scritto: Hi, it seems to be a male of Lucanus cervus turcicus Sturm, 1843, for the locality and the antennal club of six segments. PS L. laticornis should be simply a synonym of L. cervus turcicus. Thanks Giovanni. I find an article about Lucanus in Turkey and there is no Lucanus cervus turcicus... Is there any change of names? https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Ar ... Turkey.pdf Best regards. I don't know what's actually the right name, but there is surely a little confusion in that work. We can read: Eight taxa of Lucanidae have been identified from Turkey. These are L. (Lucanus) ibericus Motschulsky, L. (Lucanus) cervus L., L. (Lucanus) laticornis Deyrolle, L. (Lucanus) cervus judaicus Planet, L. (Lucanus) cervus akbesianus Planet, L. (Lucanus) cervus cervus L., L. (Pseudolucanus) busignyi Planet, and L. (Pseudolucanus) macrophyllus Kraatz. But where is the difference between Lucanus cervus and Lucanus cervus cervus? Nobody reads papers before the publication? |
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| Autore: | Lucanus tetraodon [ 21/08/2017, 20:20 ] |
| Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: Lucanus |
Julodis ha scritto: I don't know what's actually the right name, but there is surely a little confusion in that work. We can read: Eight taxa of Lucanidae have been identified from Turkey. These are L. (Lucanus) ibericus Motschulsky, L. (Lucanus) cervus L., L. (Lucanus) laticornis Deyrolle, L. (Lucanus) cervus judaicus Planet, L. (Lucanus) cervus akbesianus Planet, L. (Lucanus) cervus cervus L., L. (Pseudolucanus) busignyi Planet, and L. (Pseudolucanus) macrophyllus Kraatz. But where is the difference between Lucanus cervus and Lucanus cervus cervus? Nobody reads papers before the publication? I agree with Maurizio. L. (Lucanus) cervus cervus is absent in Turkey and L. laticornis with L. cervus akbesianus, according to many authors, are probably synonyms of L. cervus turcicus. However, this specimen could be L. (Lucanus) ibericus, but I remain of my first opinion. |
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