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to draw attention to the Horn (especially in the Female)

Pronotal anterior angles acute = C. hispanus
Pronotal anterior angles widely rounded = C. lunaris

Angoli anteriori del pronoto acuti = C. hispanus
Angoli anteriori del pronoto arrotondati = C. lunaris

Apollo, the specimen of your 6th, 7th and 8th photo is a female of C. lunaris.

More, if the specimens of your photos # 4 and # 5 have been collected in Israel, they are both C. hispanus cavolini. Please, would you post a photo of the animals from above?

All beetles (except Copris hispanus Linnaeus. Male (right)) from Israel and everything - Corris hispanus cavolinii (Petagna,1792), photo 6-8 too (so said in university Tel Aviva). Copris Lunaris in Israel does not live.

That is to say, last specimen but one is a female of hispanus, and last one is a female of lunaris, right?

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Maurizio Bollino

Maurizio, I would say, that the one on the left is a small male

I based on the sex identification given by Yuri. Apart from the sex, do the specimens belong to two different species?

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Maurizio Bollino

Friends, once again, all female from the land of Israel. Copris Lunaris in Israel it is no.

I dont know my friend. I can see there is different horn...but if its the same like the second photographed specimen from Yuri`s last post, then its a female.

And for sure they are 2 species like Creedence said.

AppoloY - Copris lunaris is recorded from Israel - http://www.glaphyridae.com/Scarabaeinae ... e.html#cop

The pinned female seems identical to our Copris lunaris.

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Maurizio Gigli
http://utenti.romascuola.net/bups
http://bup.xoom.it/

I sent the question in the University of Tel Aviv. In the list beetles Israel Copris Lunaris is no.

In the past year, I took the female in university. Professor Chikatunov V.I. said that this is the C. hispаnus саvоlinii

ApolloY, I agree with Maurizio. Copris lunaris is very common in my country, meanwhile C. hispanus is very rare, only 2 specimens recorded, one in my collection. I would be very glad to see a female of C. hispanus, but the previous posts are right. You have well developed males and small males of C. hispanus, but the female is of C. lunaris.

Cheers

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Adrian

C. lunaris is recorded from “Palestina” by Bodenheimer (1937). Furthermore, the species is known from Syria (Hariri, 1968).

I agree with the Maurizios, Zdeno and Adrian: there are two different species. The female with the horn bifurcate apically – and pronotal angles rounded - is not C. hispanus. It should be C. lunaris.

Bella questa dei "Maurizios" Quasi quasi apriamo un ristorante con questo nome: menù a base di insetti!!!! Piatti della casa: farfalle al paradiclorobenzolo, e coccinelle all'etere acetico ..... di Modena