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Plagiographus excoriatus (Gyllenhal, 1834) - Curculionidae

2.X.2011 - ITALY - Sardegna - CA, Goni - Pranu Muttedu - G.Ruzzante leg.


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ruzzpa
PostPosted: 03/10/2011, 9:50 
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mm 14 - 15
:hi:


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ApolloY
PostPosted: 03/10/2011, 13:07 
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I have a similar


Coniocleonus nigrosuturalis Goeze, 1777 17-18mm
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ApolloY
PostPosted: 03/10/2011, 13:12 
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Conicleonus excoriatus Gylenhall, 1834
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giuseppe55
PostPosted: 03/10/2011, 19:03 
 

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ApolloY wrote:
another

:ok:

ruzzpa wrote:
Plagiographus ?

:ok:

Come già detto in altra discussione da Fabio (tala) si tratta di un genere complicato.
Le specie italiane erano ascritte al genere Coniocleonus, poi al genere Stephanocleonus ed ora Plagiographus.


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ruzzpa
PostPosted: 03/10/2011, 19:49 
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Grazie a Yuri e a Giuseppe
Quindi devo desumere : Plagiographus sp.
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FORBIX
PostPosted: 03/10/2011, 20:30 
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Insomma non se ne riesce a determinarne uno di questi Plagiographus :devil: :devil: :devil:

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giuseppe55
PostPosted: 04/10/2011, 18:39 
 

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FORBIX wrote:
Insomma non se ne riesce a determinarne uno di questi Plagiographus

Forse ho dato molte cose per scontate e potrei essere frainteso.
Si tratta del Plagiographus excoriatus (Gyllenhal, 1834) (N, S, Si, Sa).

Rispetto alle belle illustrazioni fornite da Yuri:
1) Coniocleonus nigrosuturalis Goeze, 1777 17-18mm = I have a similar = NO;
2) Conicleonus excoriatus Gylenhall, 1834 = another = SI :ok:

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tala
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la foto dell'excoriatus di apollo y è molto strana rostro e pronoto di Cleonis pigra elitre dell'excoriatus

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PostPosted: 16/08/2012, 19:06 
 

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tala wrote:
la foto dell'excoriatus di apollo y è molto strana rostro e pronoto di Cleonis pigra elitre dell'excoriatus

Hai ragione.
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