This larva is most likely the larva of a carabus beetle, but which one might it be? Does anybody know the answer?
The pictures might be good enough for that. Thanks a lot!!!Uvettino
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| Autore: | Uvettino [ 04/01/2017, 9:46 ] | ||||
| Oggetto del messaggio: | Ablattaria laevigata laevigata (Fabricius, 1775) cf. - Silphidae | ||||
This larva is most likely the larva of a carabus beetle, but which one might it be? Does anybody know the answer? The pictures might be good enough for that. Thanks a lot!!!Uvettino
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| Autore: | gomphus [ 04/01/2017, 10:39 ] |
| Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: Carabus - most likely |
ciao uwe in my opinion  Silphidae
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| Autore: | elleelle [ 04/01/2017, 11:14 ] |
| Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: Carabus - most likely |
If you whatch the larva alive you have no doubt. Silphidae larvae move quiet quickly, climb over grass and plants, and turn the head towards their lower side. |
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| Autore: | Lech Borowiec [ 04/01/2017, 12:25 ] | |||
| Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: Carabus - most likely | |||
Compare general view of Silphidae (above) and Carabus (below) larvae:
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| Autore: | Uvettino [ 04/01/2017, 16:00 ] |
| Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: Carabus - most likely |
gomphus ha scritto: ciao uwe in my opinion Silphidae salute ! 
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| Autore: | Uvettino [ 04/01/2017, 16:01 ] |
| Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: Carabus - most likely |
elleelle ha scritto: If you whatch the larva alive you have no doubt. Silphidae larvae move quiet quickly, climb over grass and plants, and turn the head towards their lower side. Ciao Luigi, that is very interesting to know! Thanks for that!!!!
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| Autore: | Uvettino [ 04/01/2017, 16:03 ] |
| Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: Carabus - most likely |
Lech Borowiec ha scritto: Compare general view of Silphidae (above) and Carabus (below) larvae: Thank you so much!! Learnt again!  are the photos enough to find out which species it might be?
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| Autore: | elleelle [ 04/01/2017, 17:40 ] |
| Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: Carabus - most likely |
It lets me think of Phosphuga atrata |
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| Autore: | Julodis [ 04/01/2017, 18:43 ] |
| Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: Carabus - most likely |
I think Ablattaria laevigata ... or Phoshuga atrata. |
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| Autore: | Uvettino [ 04/01/2017, 20:37 ] |
| Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: Carabus - most likely |
I probably would go for Phoshuga atrata. how do you think? |
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| Autore: | gomphus [ 04/01/2017, 22:36 ] |
| Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: Carabus - most likely |
ciao uvettino do you remember the size of your larva? Ablattaria laevigata is distinctly larger than Phosphuga atrata, and this could help, provided the choice is only between these two (what about Aclypea undata e.g.?) |
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| Autore: | Uvettino [ 05/01/2017, 19:48 ] |
| Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: Carabus - most likely |
gomphus ha scritto: ciao uvettino do you remember the size of your larva? Ablattaria laevigata is distinctly larger than Phosphuga atrata, and this could help, provided the choice is only between these two (what about Aclypea undata e.g.?) Ciao Maurizio! Very kind of you to respond again. Thanks for that! Well, I would say no to A. undata. So it leaves it to the other two only. Yeah!  About the size of the larva. It was a rather large one, about 20-22 mm in body length [without antenna]. How do you think now, does that help?Salute, Uvettino |
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| Autore: | gomphus [ 06/01/2017, 23:06 ] |
| Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: Carabus - most likely |
ciao uvettino 20-22 mm is too large for a Phosphuga, so i would say Ablattaria |
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| Autore: | Uvettino [ 07/01/2017, 8:50 ] |
| Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: Carabus - most likely |
gomphus ha scritto: ciao uvettino 20-22 mm is too large for a Phosphuga, so i would say Ablattaria Buon giorno, Maurizio! Thanks for responding again! OK, convinced, then I file it as an Ablattaria!  Thanks much for your help!!!Buon giornata! Salute, Uvettino
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