Biblio.- Benson 1 : RES - Handbooks ... Symphyta ... Vol. VI 2(b) - 1952
- Benson 2 : Bull. British Museum ... Vol. 22 n°4 - 1968 - Hymenoptera from Turkey - Symphyta
- Berland :  Faune de France  ... Vol. 47 - Hyménoptères Tenthredoïdes - 1947
- Blank & Ritzau : Die Tenthredopsini Deutschlands (in Pflanzenwespen Deutschland ... Edit. Goecke & Evers - 1998)
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Ciao,
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4424 captured  at an altitude of about 410 m in Cne : Anost (Dépt. Saône-et-Loire) - 20.05.2008 . Length : about 9.4 mm
We use the keys (which I already sent to the forum) here after :
download/file.php?id=47394&mode=view and 
download/file.php?id=47396&mode=viewWe find that it is a 
Tenthredininae .
According to 
Benson 1 p.109/112 : we are in the presence of a 
tenthredopsis, because :
- The 1st tergite does not have a medial furrow, but a medial ridge whose cross section is clearly triangular (which I could not photo because of the poor quality of my camera) 
- The form of the clypeus (to see my photo).
The capture is thus a 
Tenthredopsis ♂ .
The tergite 8 of this 
Tenthredopsis is depressed marginally (I could not make photo) .
According to 
Blank & Ritzau p.234 : we are in the presence (thing understoud) of the 
nassata-group (
sensu Benson).
It is now that the difficulties start : The specialists are not more in agreement , because the hindwing of this 
Tenthredopsis does not have a marginal vein .
For some the absence of this vein is enough to indicate 
T. coqueberti, for the others this criterion is not sufficient : 
- According to 
Blank & Ritzau p.238 : other species of the 
nassata-group  can have this characteristic .
- According to 
Berland p.150 and 
Benson 2 p.161 : 
T. coqueberti is a form of 
T. nassataFinaly ; 
The white color of tarsus 3 
also posing a problem , I can be more precise only :
Tenthredopsis nassata-group (Benson 1968) var. coqueberti (Klug 1817) ♂ T. coqueberti vivono anche in Italia (to see : Masutti L. e  Pesarini F. - 1995)… Avete un parere ?
Saluti.
D & JP Balmer