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Athalia aff. bicolor Audinet-Servile, 1823 - Tenthredinidae
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Autore:  marco paglialunga [ 08/05/2011, 9:55 ]
Oggetto del messaggio:  Athalia aff. bicolor Audinet-Servile, 1823 - Tenthredinidae

Impollinata su ranuncolo :|

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Autore:  D & JP Balmer [ 08/05/2011, 18:05 ]
Oggetto del messaggio:  Re: Athalia bicolor Serville, 1823 ?

Ciao,
Many characters are not visible (Claws, clypeus, apical tergite & sternite, …).
Only the 1st tergite black indicates Athalia bicolor , but the wings seem too yellow for this species (see download/file.php?id=43206).
Thus I do not dare confirm your identification .
Saluti.

D & JP Balmer

Autore:  marco paglialunga [ 09/05/2011, 14:01 ]
Oggetto del messaggio:  Re: Athalia bicolor Serville, 1823 ?

Tested with these photos...
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if we can call them that :)
6 mm

Autore:  D & JP Balmer [ 09/05/2011, 16:24 ]
Oggetto del messaggio:  Re: Athalia bicolor Serville, 1823 ?

Ciao,

- The center of the apical edge of clypeus (but the photo is fuzzy) seems projected ahead : characteristic of bicolor.
- According to Zhelokhovtsev : The margin of pronotum is yellow in the male (apparently it is not the case here).
- the wings seem too yellow for bicolor.
The other characteristics are fuzzy on the photo.

With my opinion : Italian local race of Athalia aff. bicolor Audinet-Servile, 1823 (before allotted to Lepeletier)
Saluti.

D & JP Balmer

Autore:  marco paglialunga [ 10/05/2011, 8:14 ]
Oggetto del messaggio:  Re: Athalia bicolor Serville, 1823 ?

Thanks a lot Jean-Pierre!! :hi:

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