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Tenthredo (Tenthredo) marginella F. 1793 ♂ & ♀ (cf.) - Symphyta - Tenthredinidae - Tenthredinidae http://www.entomologiitaliani.net/public/forum/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=375&t=35850 |
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Autore: | D & JP Balmer [ 28/06/2012, 16:22 ] | |||
Oggetto del messaggio: | Tenthredo (Tenthredo) marginella F. 1793 ♂ & ♀ (cf.) - Symphyta - Tenthredinidae - Tenthredinidae | |||
Biblio. - Chevin : Tenthredo succincta Lep. 1823, espèce valide .... in "Cahiers des Naturalistes Parisiens" 1983 - n.s. 39 - p.15/18
==== Saluti, # 2938 ♂ Captured in Cne : Pontoise (Dépt. Val d' Oise - France) - 11.08.1994 # 3093 ♀ Captured in Cne : Pontoise (Dépt. Val d' Oise - France) - 14.08.1995 For the keys of determination of this sp., see : viewtopic.php?f=11&t=34877 & viewtopic.php?f=375&t=35433 See also thompsoni : viewtopic.php?f=11&t=35831 Therefore : marginella or thompsoni --- 3093 ♀ According to Chevin, the punctuation of mesopleura is not easy to estimate. The teeth of the saw are not very visible. Thus how to identify this ♀ ? - We calculated the criterion h/lg (see drawing) which shares our captures ♀ into 2 groups:
2nd : h/lg ~ 0.28 to 0.33 (All the others ♀). Being given the weakness of our sample (and of our identifications ...), this criterion asks to be scientifically validated ! - I thus think that the species of the 2nd group are marginella, in particular our ♀ # 3093.
2938 ♂ Our ♂ has the mandibles (apex excepted) entirely brown-blackish. It is thus a marginella. ==== Finally : Tenthredo (Tenthredo) marginella F. 1793 ♂ & ♀(cf.), Anche catturato in Italia. Ciao, D & JP Balmer
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Autore: | D & JP Balmer [ 29/06/2012, 3:55 ] |
Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: Tenthredo (Tenthredo) marginella F. 1793 ♂ & ♀ - Symphyta - Tenthredinidae - Tenthredinidae |
Thanks for the rectification in the title of the Message, [♀ (cf.), no ♀] D & JP Balmer |
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