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Autore: | alexaandru [ 19/01/2020, 19:34 ] |
Oggetto del messaggio: | Ametastegia (Ametastegia) equiseti (Fallen, 1808) - Tenthredinidae |
Hello , I have this specimen from Romania, it was found in a wine bait trap. Any idea about the species name please? |
Autore: | gomphus [ 19/01/2020, 22:38 ] |
Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: Symphyta for ID |
hi alexandru you should re-prepare the specimen, with spread wings, examination of wing venation of both fore and hind wings is necessary even for genus determination |
Autore: | alexaandru [ 19/01/2020, 23:45 ] |
Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: Symphyta for ID |
Thank you Maurizio , I will come back with better pictures of the wings, soon |
Autore: | alexaandru [ 23/01/2020, 19:10 ] |
Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: Symphyta for ID |
I hope the pictures are good enough now ....the lenght of the specimen is 7.5 mm. |
Autore: | D & JP Balmer [ 24/01/2020, 1:38 ] |
Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: Symphyta for ID |
Siobla sp. but the black color (aberration or variety ?) of Antennae does not allow me to determine the species. |
Autore: | alexaandru [ 24/01/2020, 9:14 ] |
Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: Symphyta for ID |
Thank you for your answer , but what about Ametastegia equiseti, it can't be this species? |
Autore: | gomphus [ 24/01/2020, 10:22 ] |
Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: Symphyta for ID |
alexaandru ha scritto: Thank you for your answer , but what about Ametastegia equiseti, it can't be this species? from the first pictures, this clearly appeared to be a Selandriinae (sensu berland, faune de france), not a Tenthredininae, thus not Siobla 3 submarginal cells in fore wing = not Allantus i asked for a picture showing the hind wing, since i was in doubt between Taxonus (2 closed medial cells *) and Ametastegia (no closed medial cells) * following the now obsolete berland's nomenclature yet i still have to learn the recent correct one |
Autore: | alexaandru [ 25/01/2020, 22:53 ] |
Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: Symphyta for ID |
Many thanks again Maurizio |
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