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type, genus ?

Cheiracanthium sp.- Miturgidae

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Ciao Antonella

Thanks for the help,

Is it possible to understand this type of photography?
I "mildei" likened.

Yes, it is similar to "C. mildei"

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Ciao Antonella

Thank you Maria,

"mildei", the wikipedia says there is poison in Turkey dangerous to man.
But the my research I've found the source, I understand if you are wrong "effect until the bee bite," he says.
What is your opinion about this?

Source: http://www.jbc.org/content/285/42/32293.full

You can read this article to get an idea about Cheiracanthium sp. bites.
http://www.scielo.br/scielo.php?script= ... 2000300014

I think that C. mildei is not one of the most dangerous spiders, but also I think that it would be better if you avoid it.

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Ciao Antonella

The article is non so convincing for me.

For istance, the author indicates Steatoda paykulliana (and why not Steatoda nobilis and Steatoda grossa?) among the most dangerous italian spyders, but this is not confirmed by other authors.

In particular, Cheiracanthium mildei is a rather small, frail and litthe aggressive spyder, differently from Cheiracanthium punctorium, and is very common even inside our houses, but very few people get bitten and almost nobody have consequences.

I would sharply separate the considerations about the two species of the genus Cheiracanthium.

Don't worry too much about C. mildei ...
luigi

I think this article is comprehensive enough for a first approach to spider knowledge as well as the conclusion is absolutely clear and scientifically correct:



Also the author honestly admits that we know too little to draw a definitive conclusion about this argument:

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Ciao Antonella

I was not criticizing the article in general.

What I was objecting was just the inclusion of Steatoda paykulliana (and not, in case, the entire genus) among the most dangerous italian spyders, and a certain confusion between the effects of the bite of Cheiracanthium punctorium - that actually is fairly big and reasonably with more poison - and Cheiracanthium mildei.
luigi

In my apartment, where I live for 25 years, lives a population of Steatoda grossa (this is one), with whom cohabit peacefully. I do not think having to fear biting. By hypothesis it can be poisonous, but not being aggressive, there is no danger.

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Mauro

Thank you Luigi and Maria

nesting my motorcycle carburetors .
Not to be afraid, researched the events of the poison of curiosity.

Introducing around me to prevent the killing. Passes in front of them to recognize the fear.

Maruo, Nice to be living with them

Thanks,