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AdYRuicanescu
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Inviato: 22/05/2011, 8:10 |
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Iscritto il: 22/03/2010, 10:17 Messaggi: 1147 Località: Cluj-Napoca, Romania
Nome: Adrian Ruicanescu
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Swapped on Fragaria sp.. 2-2.5mm.
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Tomasius
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Inviato: 10/06/2011, 19:32 |
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Iscritto il: 23/08/2010, 22:30 Messaggi: 66
Nome: T. Kwast
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Hello AdYRuicanescu,
in my opinion is this Trachys problematicus. Trachys fragariae has no hairs on the elytra and pronotum!
ciau
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Julodis
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Inviato: 13/06/2011, 9:01 |
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Iscritto il: 30/12/2009, 22:20 Messaggi: 31564 Località: Roma
Nome: Maurizio Gigli
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Penso proprio che Tomasius abbia ragione. Non è T. fragariae.
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AdYRuicanescu
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Inviato: 13/06/2011, 9:30 |
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Iscritto il: 22/03/2010, 10:17 Messaggi: 1147 Località: Cluj-Napoca, Romania
Nome: Adrian Ruicanescu
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Julodis ha scritto: Penso proprio che Tomasius abbia ragione. Non è T. fragariae. The hairs are not visible if I don't use a diffuser. So when I made the identification, some years ago, I didn't know about the trick with the diffuser. I have to agree with Tomasius about the T. fragariae. But I have other T. problematica also here: viewtopic.php?f=73&t=21960 and it differs in shape. The front is not so concave between the eyes and the body shape is more oval. I like this collaboration and I seem to learn more here than in my all single activity. Thank you. Cheers.
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Tomasius
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Inviato: 13/06/2011, 10:39 |
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Iscritto il: 23/08/2010, 22:30 Messaggi: 66
Nome: T. Kwast
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Cita: The front is not so concave between the eyes and the body shape is more oval.
You're right, it looks a little bit different to Trachys problematica. Another possibility is Trachys ahenata Mulsant & Rey, 1863, but I don't know this species very well, so I can not say without any doubt if it is.
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AdYRuicanescu
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Inviato: 13/06/2011, 14:18 |
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Iscritto il: 22/03/2010, 10:17 Messaggi: 1147 Località: Cluj-Napoca, Romania
Nome: Adrian Ruicanescu
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Tomasius ha scritto: Cita: The front is not so concave between the eyes and the body shape is more oval.
You're right, it looks a little bit different to Trachys problematica. Another possibility is Trachys ahenata Mulsant & Rey, 1863, but I don't know this species very well, so I can not say without any doubt if it is. Yes you're right. I see here: http://coleoptera.ksib.pl/search.php?ta ... en&dds=par Trachys pumila Illiger, 1803 (synonym with T. ahenata Mulsant & Rey, 1863). Unfortunately, the single guide I have in Trachys is Schaefer, 1948. - Les Buprestides de France. It should be very productive if someone of us can make a guide of European Trachys and Habroloma. I think they are not so many species.
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Tomasius
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Inviato: 13/06/2011, 15:22 |
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Iscritto il: 23/08/2010, 22:30 Messaggi: 66
Nome: T. Kwast
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Be careful, Trachys ahenata isn't synonymised with Trachys pumila! After Löbl & Smetana (2006) is Trachys ahenata a valid species. The southern balcan species "Trachys pumila" lives in Phlomis sp.
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AdYRuicanescu
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Inviato: 13/06/2011, 15:31 |
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Iscritto il: 22/03/2010, 10:17 Messaggi: 1147 Località: Cluj-Napoca, Romania
Nome: Adrian Ruicanescu
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Tomasius ha scritto: Be careful, Trachys ahenata isn't synonymised with Trachys pumila! After Löbl & Smetana (2006) is Trachys ahenata a valid species. The southern balcan species "Trachys pumila" lives in Phlomis sp. Well, this will make it harder then. Because they are 3 species with a similar habitus. I have the books (Schaefer, Curletti, Bily, Muhle & co. Lobl & Smetana) at my job, I will check where I found T. ahenata synonymised to T. pumila. I have only my database "Buprom" here
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Tomasius
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Inviato: 13/06/2011, 16:41 |
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Iscritto il: 23/08/2010, 22:30 Messaggi: 66
Nome: T. Kwast
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The Trachys pumila-group is very difficult, because there exist a few species wich names are not correct identified. Also Trachys phlyctenoides is after Löbl & Smetana a valid species. Fact is, that your specimens are not the southern balcan "Trachys pumila" wich lives in Phlomis sp., thats why I wouldn't call it Trachys pumila.
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AdYRuicanescu
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Inviato: 16/06/2011, 10:35 |
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Iscritto il: 22/03/2010, 10:17 Messaggi: 1147 Località: Cluj-Napoca, Romania
Nome: Adrian Ruicanescu
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Tomasius ha scritto: ... Fact is, that your specimens are not the southern balcan "Trachys pumila" wich lives in Phlomis sp., thats why I wouldn't call it Trachys pumila. Certainly not these ones I collected in Transylvania, far enough for the Southern Balkans. Now I am confused because I have not a new guide.
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