Hello,
No idea about this Sphenoptera from Azerbaidjan (Kelwaz - Talysh - 19 V 1999). Maybe Sphenoptera (Sphenoptera) traganthae, or probably something else ?
Many thanks for your help.
Dominique
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| Autore: | Dominique [ 10/02/2013, 14:19 ] | ||
| Oggetto del messaggio: | Sphenoptera (Sphenoptera) tragacanthae (Klug, 1929) - Buprestidae | ||
Hello, No idea about this Sphenoptera from Azerbaidjan (Kelwaz - Talysh - 19 V 1999). Maybe Sphenoptera (Sphenoptera) traganthae, or probably something else ? Many thanks for your help. Dominique
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| Autore: | Julodis [ 10/02/2013, 16:32 ] |
| Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: Buprestidae from Azerbaidjan |
Dominique ha scritto: Maybe Sphenoptera (Sphenoptera) traganthae Maybe, but it's quite difficult to be sure by photo.Size? |
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| Autore: | Glaphyrus [ 10/02/2013, 17:23 ] |
| Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: Buprestidae from Azerbaidjan |
Hi Dominique, welcome to the forum 
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| Autore: | Dominique [ 10/02/2013, 18:31 ] |
| Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: Buprestidae from Azerbaidjan |
@Maurizio I'm aware that Sphenoptera is a difficult genus ! According to Löbl & Smetana, there are about 15 species of Sphneoptera stricto sensu in Azerbaidjan... The size is 22 mm. @Marco Thanks, Marco, it's my first topic on this forum. 
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| Autore: | Acmaeodera [ 11/02/2013, 10:51 ] |
| Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: Buprestidae from Azerbaidjan |
It looks like more as Sphenoptera magna.....  genital out !
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| Autore: | Dominique [ 12/02/2013, 9:17 ] | ||
| Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: Buprestidae from Azerbaidjan | ||
Hereunder the aedeagus. In Löbl & Smetana (i.e. Volkovitsh & Kalashian for the Sphenopterini), S. magna is not given from Azerbaidjan.
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| Autore: | Acmaeodera [ 12/02/2013, 19:47 ] |
| Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: Buprestidae from Azerbaidjan |
oah, -if is removed aedagus by depicted specimen (?), so its not S.tragacanthae and also its not S.magna. Moreover, male pro- & metatibiae of both cited species are always curved. I see this a little bit on protibiae only.... Maybe S.anthracina....
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| Autore: | Dominique [ 13/02/2013, 9:27 ] | ||
| Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: Buprestidae from Azerbaidjan | ||
The bup above is a female, and the aedeagus comes from a damaged male captured in the same place at the same moment (V. Dolin leg.). I've prepared another male, with the aedeagus photographied in a different angle :
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| Autore: | Acmaeodera [ 14/02/2013, 20:32 ] | ||
| Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: Buprestidae from Azerbaidjan | ||
Oh, quindi è ...  Sphenoptera (Sphenoptera) tragacanthae (Klug,1929)
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| Autore: | Dominique [ 14/02/2013, 21:16 ] |
| Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: Buprestidae from Azerbaidjan |
Many Thanks, Ilja 
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| Autore: | Acmaeodera [ 15/02/2013, 8:39 ] |
| Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: Buprestidae from Azerbaidjan |
= scarabeo molte facce, dimensioni, e la maggior parte dei sinonimi ... 
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| Autore: | Julodis [ 15/02/2013, 18:05 ] |
| Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: Buprestidae from Azerbaidjan |
Ilja, please write in English! Your sentences, automatically translated into Italian, are difficult to understand, and sometimes hilarious! With: Acmaeodera ha scritto: scarabeo molte facce, dimensioni, e la maggior parte dei sinonimi you probably woud mean:Polymorphic beetle, very variable in size, with many synonyms (coleottero polimorfico, molto variabile in dimensioni, con molti sinonimi). but when we read your text, the meaning is: scarab many faces, sizes, and most of synonyms. |
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| Autore: | Acmaeodera [ 16/02/2013, 11:02 ] |
| Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: Buprestidae from Azerbaidjan |
Ah, understand... ok
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