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| Autore: | ozgur70 [ 17/01/2014, 12:40 ] | ||
| Oggetto del messaggio: | Acmaeodera (Acmaeotethya) saxicola saxicola Spinola,1838 - Buprestidae | ||
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| Autore: | Julodis [ 17/01/2014, 16:41 ] |
| Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: Buprestidae ? |
Most probably Acmaeodera saxicola, but in turkey there are other two species quite similar: Acmaeodera simulans and another one I don't remember now, perhaps A. biseriata. |
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| Autore: | Acmaeodera [ 17/01/2014, 16:48 ] |
| Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: Buprestidae ? |
Acmaeodera (Acmaeotethya) saxicola saxicola Spinola,1838 |
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| Autore: | Acmaeodera [ 18/01/2014, 9:10 ] | ||
| Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: Acmaeodera (Acmaeotethya) saxicola saxicola Spinola,1838 - Buprestidae | ||
biseriata - simulans - saxicola - sedecimmactata /Turkey-Syria-Jordan-Israel-Iran/
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| Autore: | Julodis [ 18/01/2014, 17:35 ] |
| Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: Acmaeodera (Acmaeotethya) saxicola saxicola Spinola,1838 - Buprestidae |
Poi non ditemi che le prime tre non si somigliano tanto! |
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| Autore: | Acmaeodera [ 18/01/2014, 20:10 ] |
| Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: Acmaeodera (Acmaeotethya) saxicola saxicola Spinola,1838 - Buprestidae |
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| Autore: | Maurizio Bollino [ 18/01/2014, 20:23 ] |
| Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: Acmaeodera (Acmaeotethya) saxicola saxicola Spinola,1838 - Buprestidae |
Looking at the images added by Ilja, and comparing them with the specimen from Turkey, I am wondering why the latter is not A. simulans: both specimens have the same shape of the hairy pronotum, and both lack the lateral yellowish spot on pronotum. On the contrary, the shape of the pronotum of saxicola is totally different, it is not hairy (at least il looks so), and has a yellowish marginal spot. |
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| Autore: | Julodis [ 18/01/2014, 22:37 ] |
| Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: Acmaeodera (Acmaeotethya) saxicola saxicola Spinola,1838 - Buprestidae |
Maurizio Bollino ha scritto: On the contrary, the shape of the pronotum of saxicola is totally different, it is not hairy (at least il looks so), and has a yellowish marginal spot. Mica tanto! La pubescenza c'è, ma è scura, come nell'esemplare di Karaman Non sempre c'è Non per niente dicevo che sono difficili da distinguere. In realtà io ho avuto saxicola e simulans mescolate tra loro in collezione fino al giorno in cui è passato da me Mark Volkovitsh, che me le ha separate. |
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| Autore: | Acmaeodera [ 19/01/2014, 11:37 ] |
| Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: Acmaeodera (Acmaeotethya) saxicola saxicola Spinola,1838 - Buprestidae |
A.saxicola and A.simulans have totally different position of spots, BUT - some simulans havent spots, and some simulans have two stripes only...on photography are typical specimen ... In Turkey lives cca 5 morphological groups of A.saxicola, and its true that some saxicola is very similar to simulans, and some other is similar to big A.biseriata... |
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| Autore: | Maurizio Bollino [ 19/01/2014, 11:41 ] |
| Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: Acmaeodera (Acmaeotethya) saxicola saxicola Spinola,1838 - Buprestidae |
Acmaeodera ha scritto: A.saxicola and A.simulans have totally different position of spots, BUT - some simulans havent spots, and some simulans have two stripes only...on photography are typical specimen only... In Turkey lives cca 5 morphological groups of A.saxicola, and its true that some saxicola is very similar to simulans, and some other is similar to big A.biseriata... Thanks so much for explanation, Ilja: thus I presume that their identification is really a mess!!! |
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| Autore: | Acmaeodera [ 19/01/2014, 13:09 ] |
| Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: Acmaeodera (Acmaeotethya) saxicola saxicola Spinola,1838 - Buprestidae |
molto adatto ... 
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