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n 34 (partie 2), see viewtopic.php?f=104&t=106661&p=531643#p531643
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The couplet n° 35 of Townes's key does not separate a satisfactory manner : Banchinae ♂ & Microleptinae ♂
(The 2 options of couplet are not separated logically)
This is why I tried to find the criteria allowing to differentiate the ♂ belonging to these 2 subFamilies.
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All the subFamilies and Genera are sensu Townes.
Thanks to Eopteryx (Filippo Di Giovanni) who have me indicated my imprecision.
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Terminology see viewtopic.php?f=104&t=47025
Structure of Ichneumonidae see the previous link & viewtopic.php?f=11&t=39972
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Drawings from Townes
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Banchinae, go to viewtopic.php?f=104&t=54322&hilit=+Banchinae
Banchinae ♀, go to https://www.flickr.com/photos/d-jp-balm ... kVv-dRGJ1d
Microleptinae, go to viewtopic.php?f=104&t=58545&hilit=+Microleptinae
Microleptinae ♀, go to https://www.flickr.com/photos/d-jp-balm ... Vv-2ranhK3
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keywords :
Hymenoptera Ichneumonoidea Ichneumonidae Banchinae Microleptinae Orthocentrinae Cylloceriinae Oxytorinae Catastenus femoralis Symplecis Dialipsis exilis Eusterinx Stilbops Blapticus Gnathochorisis Laepserus Entypoma Exetastes Oxytorus Lissonota Arenetra pilosella Plectiscidea Aperileptus[/size]

Pay attention. What you call Microleptinae is now Orthocentrinae (in part, excluding Orthocentrus genus-group) + Oxytorinae (Oxytorus). Currently Microleptinae is restricted only to Microleptes. (I know it's really a mess )

Filippo

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Hello,
Thank you for this remark.
Effectively, I wanted to clarify that sub-families and genera were sensu Townes but I forgot ... !
I am going to add as soon as possible the precision.
Ciao.
D & JP Balmer

more or less:

Microleptinae sensu Townes = Oxytorinae sensu van Rossem =

now Microleptinae (Microleptes) + Oxytorinae (Oxytorus) + Cylloceriinae (Cylloceria, Allomacrus and recently Hyperacmus) + Tatogastrinae (Tatogaster) + Orthocentrinae excluding Orthocentrus genus group (= Helictini sensu Humala)

Spero di non aver dimenticato nulla

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"Non posso separare il piacere estetico che provo nel vedere una farfalla dal piacere scientifico di sapere che cosa è" (V.Nabokov)

Ok for your liste, But according to Taxapad & FE :
- Hyperacmus is a Orthocentrinae
- Tatogaster is present only in South America.
Ciao.
D & JP balmer

Yep, Tatogaster nigra is only in South America.
On Hyperacmus: Hyperacmus was transferred to the Cylloceriinae in Quicke et al. 2009 "A thousand and one wasps: a 28S rDNA and morphological phylogeny of the Ichneumonidae (Insecta: Hymenoptera) with an investigation into alignment parameter space and elision".
In addition:
- Brachyscleromatinae were resurrected to include Brachyschleroma and the Erythrodolius group of Phrudinae.
- the Neorhacodinae and the Phrudus group of Phrudinae were transferred to the Tersilochinae.

Filippo

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Saluti,
Thank you for this very interesting information.
If I find the text, I am going to use it to deepen my weak knowledge on the concerned groups.
Ciao.
D & JP Balmer

Sent

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