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Adaptation for the ♂ & ♀ (of France and Italy) of the subFamilies's Key contained in "The Genera of Ichneumonidae" of H. Townes (1969 - p.53/59 - n° 35) - Ichneumonidae
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Autore:  D & JP Balmer [ 29/03/2014, 17:53 ]
Oggetto del messaggio:  Adaptation for the ♂ & ♀ (of France and Italy) of the subFamilies's Key contained in "The Genera of Ichneumonidae" of H. Townes (1969 - p.53/59 - n° 35) - Ichneumonidae
The couplet n° 35 of Townes's key does not separate a satisfactory manner : Banchinae ♂ & Microleptinae ♂
(The 2 options of couplet are not separated logically)
This is why I tried to find the criteria allowing to differentiate the ♂ belonging to these 2 subFamilies.
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All the subFamilies and genera are sensu Townes.
Thanks to Eopteryx (Filippo Di Giovanni) who have me indicated my imprecision.
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Terminology see viewtopic.php?f=104&t=47025
Structure of Ichneumonidae see the previous link & viewtopic.php?f=11&t=39972
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Drawings from Townes
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keywords :
Hymenoptera Ichneumonoidea Ichneumonidae Banchinae Microleptinae Orthocentrinae Cylloceriinae Oxytorinae Catastenus femoralis Symplecis Dialipsis exilis Eusterinx Stilbops Blapticus Gnathochorisis Laepserus Entypoma Exetastes Oxytorus Lissonota Arenetra pilosella Plectiscidea Aperileptus

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TOWNES - Clé 35.jpg
Autore:  Eopteryx [ 30/03/2014, 11:43 ]
Oggetto del messaggio:  Re: Differentiation of ♂ (of France & Italy) belonging to the subFamilies : Banchinae & Microleptinae - Ichneumonidae
Pay attention. What you call Microleptinae is now Orthocentrinae (in part, excluding Orthocentrus genus-group) + Oxytorinae (Oxytorus). Currently Microleptinae is restricted only to Microleptes. (I know it's really a mess :lol: )

Filippo :hi:
Autore:  D & JP Balmer [ 30/03/2014, 12:00 ]
Oggetto del messaggio:  Re: Differentiation of ♂ (of France & Italy) belonging to the subFamilies : Banchinae & Microleptinae - Ichneumonidae
Eopteryx ha scritto:
Pay attention. What you call Microleptinae is now Orthocentrinae (in part, excluding Orthocentrus genus-group) + Oxytorinae (Oxytorus). Currently Microleptinae is restricted only to Microleptes. (I know it's really a mess :lol: )

Filippo :hi:
Hello,
Thank you for this remark.
Effectively, I wanted to clarify that sub-families and genera were sensu Townes but I forgot ... ! :sick:
I am going to add as soon as possible the precision.
Ciao.
D & JP Balmer
Autore:  Eopteryx [ 30/03/2014, 12:48 ]
Oggetto del messaggio:  Re: Differentiation of ♂ (of France & Italy) belonging to the subFamilies : Banchinae & Microleptinae - Ichneumonidae
more or less:

Microleptinae sensu Townes = Oxytorinae sensu van Rossem =

now Microleptinae (Microleptes) + Oxytorinae (Oxytorus) + Cylloceriinae (Cylloceria, Allomacrus and recently Hyperacmus) + Tatogastrinae (Tatogaster) + Orthocentrinae excluding Orthocentrus genus group (= Helictini sensu Humala)

Spero di non aver dimenticato nulla :lol:
Autore:  D & JP Balmer [ 30/03/2014, 13:46 ]
Oggetto del messaggio:  Re: Differentiation of ♂ (of France & Italy) belonging to the subFamilies : Banchinae & Microleptinae - Ichneumonidae
Eopteryx ha scritto:
more or less:

Microleptinae sensu Townes = Oxytorinae sensu van Rossem =

now Microleptinae (Microleptes) + Oxytorinae (Oxytorus) + Cylloceriinae (Cylloceria, Allomacrus and recently Hyperacmus) + Tatogastrinae (Tatogaster) + Orthocentrinae excluding Orthocentrus genus group (= Helictini sensu Humala)

Spero di non aver dimenticato nulla :lol:


Ok for your liste, But according to Taxapad & FE :
- Hyperacmus is a Orthocentrinae
- Tatogaster is present only in South America.
Ciao.
D & JP balmer
:hi:
Autore:  Eopteryx [ 30/03/2014, 15:21 ]
Oggetto del messaggio:  Re: Differentiation of ♂ (of France & Italy) belonging to the subFamilies : Banchinae & Microleptinae - Ichneumonidae
D & JP Balmer ha scritto:

Ok for your liste, But according to Taxapad & FE :
- Hyperacmus is a Orthocentrinae
- Tatogaster is present only in South America.
Ciao.
D & JP balmer
:hi:


Yep, Tatogaster nigra is only in South America.
On Hyperacmus: Hyperacmus was transferred to the Cylloceriinae in Quicke et al. 2009 "A thousand and one wasps: a 28S rDNA and morphological phylogeny of the Ichneumonidae (Insecta: Hymenoptera) with an investigation into alignment parameter space and elision".
In addition:
- Brachyscleromatinae were resurrected to include Brachyschleroma and the Erythrodolius group of Phrudinae.
- the Neorhacodinae and the Phrudus group of Phrudinae were transferred to the Tersilochinae.

Filippo :birra:
Autore:  D & JP Balmer [ 30/03/2014, 17:51 ]
Oggetto del messaggio:  Re: Differentiation of ♂ (of France & Italy) belonging to the subFamilies : Banchinae & Microleptinae - Ichneumonidae
Saluti,
Thank you for this very interesting information.
If I find the text, I am going to use it to deepen my weak knowledge on the concerned groups.
Ciao.
D & JP Balmer
Autore:  Eopteryx [ 30/03/2014, 20:12 ]
Oggetto del messaggio:  Re: Differentiation of ♂ (of France & Italy) belonging to the subFamilies : Banchinae & Microleptinae - Ichneumonidae
Sent 8-)
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