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| Autore: | cosmln [ 18/01/2011, 15:54 ] |
| Oggetto del messaggio: | Limodromus assimilis (Paykull, 1790) - Carabidae |
 anche quest stati raccolti sotto cortecia, vedi qui. un nome e possible  (maschio e femmina ) ... grazie.raccolto nel 15.I.2010, Romania: Moldova: near Iasi, leg. Cosmin O. Manci, dimensioni ~13 mm. anche genitalia stata preparata, se necessario faro qualche foto. |
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| Autore: | Joro [ 18/01/2011, 21:22 ] |
| Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: ? - Carabidae |
Hello Cosmin, Limodromus assimilis (Paykull 1790) Also there is no other Limodromus in Romania,as far as I know. |
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| Autore: | cosmln [ 18/01/2011, 22:04 ] |
| Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: ? - Carabidae |
Joro ha scritto: Hello Cosmin, Limodromus assimilis (Paykull 1790) Also there is no other Limodromus in Romania,as far as I know. thank Georgi, so probably this (this is the same  ), this and this are the same?anyone has a pdf were genitalia for this species are illustrated? |
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| Autore: | cosmln [ 21/01/2011, 17:33 ] |
| Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: ? - Carabidae |
cosmln ha scritto: thank Georgi, so probably this (this is the same ), this and this are the same?anyone has a pdf were genitalia for this species are illustrated? metto questo di nuovo in vostra attenzione 
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| Autore: | cosmln [ 04/02/2011, 22:07 ] |
| Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: ? - Carabidae |
di nuovo ... metto questo in vostra attenzione
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| Autore: | cosmln [ 06/02/2011, 20:01 ] |
| Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: ? - Carabidae |
e genitalia per questo: |
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| Autore: | Anillus [ 07/02/2011, 0:18 ] |
| Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: ? - Carabidae |
Ciao Cosmin, per me è sempre Limodromus assimilis (Paykull 1790)
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| Autore: | cosmln [ 07/02/2011, 9:52 ] |
| Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: Limodromus assimilis (Paykull 1790) - Carabidae |
k, now I have taken a look on [Heinz Freude, Karl-Wilhelm Harde & Gustav Adolf Lohse (eds.) 2004. Die Käfer Mitteleuropas, Band 2 (Carabidae) (2nd ed.)] ... see the crop from book ... and I will say that pronotum and genitalia in my eyes look like the one from L.krynickii. |
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| Autore: | cosmln [ 07/02/2011, 10:08 ] |
| Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: Limodromus assimilis (Paykull 1790) - Carabidae |
prnotum from the L.assmilis and this one. |
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| Autore: | ricdoc57 [ 07/02/2011, 13:09 ] |
| Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: Limodromus assimilis (Paykull 1790) ? - Carabidae |
Really, L. krinickiii is a clearly larger and darker species, different from the one here represented. L. assimilis is a very widespread, common and variable species, so a considerable amount of variation can be observed, but the other species is really different. I am sorry. Have a good day 
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| Autore: | Joro [ 07/02/2011, 15:23 ] |
| Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: Limodromus assimilis (Paykull 1790) ? - Carabidae |
I don't try to argue with the proffessionals,I just want to note that you are comparing a male and a female specimen. Regards, Georgi |
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| Autore: | cosmln [ 07/02/2011, 15:26 ] |
| Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: Limodromus assimilis (Paykull 1790) ? - Carabidae |
ricdoc57 ha scritto: Really, L. krinickiii is a clearly larger and darker species, different from the one here represented. L. assimilis is a very widespread, common and variable species, so a considerable amount of variation can be observed, but the other species is really different. I am sorry. Have a good day I understand, grazie Riccardo Joro ha scritto: I don't try to argue with the proffessionals,I just want to note that you are comparing a male and a female specimen. Regards, Georgi the two crop with pronotum are both from male specimens. |
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| Autore: | gomphus [ 07/02/2011, 19:09 ] |
| Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: Limodromus assimilis (Paykull 1790) ? - Carabidae |
ciao cosmin Limodromus krynickii is not only a dark species with almost entirely blackish appendages (however, note that i'm not familiar with not fully mature specimens), usually it has less shining elytra because of stronger microsculpture, their shine is somewhat reminiscent of a male Anisodactylus binotatus should this be of some interest for you, i have never found krynickii in woods far from water, or in hillsides; conversely, it is often more abundant than assimilis in floodplain woods, even small wooded patches or stripes, along the large rivers |
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