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Syntomus pallipes (Dejean, 1825) - Carabidae
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Autore:  Bogdan_bio [ 04/09/2012, 20:38 ]
Oggetto del messaggio:  Syntomus pallipes (Dejean, 1825) - Carabidae

Length 3mm
Thank you !!!!

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Autore:  gomphus [ 04/09/2012, 21:12 ]
Oggetto del messaggio:  Re: Carabidae..........Syntomus obscuroguttatus ...........?

hi stefan

from elytra shape, i would say :oops: more likely Syntomus truncatellus... yet with such a photo, it's difficult :oooner: ...

Autore:  Bogdan_bio [ 04/09/2012, 21:21 ]
Oggetto del messaggio:  Re: Carabidae..........Syntomus obscuroguttatus ...........?

Hy Maurizio,

S. truncatellus has black appendages and body more to a black or blackish colour.
I will try to make a better picture of the elytra tomorrow but I don't want to damage it more because I have a single individual.

Thank you.

Autore:  gabrif [ 04/09/2012, 21:31 ]
Oggetto del messaggio:  Re: Carabidae..........Syntomus obscuroguttatus ...........?

Might be S. pallipes :roll: :roll: :roll:
:hi: :hi: G.

Autore:  gomphus [ 04/09/2012, 21:39 ]
Oggetto del messaggio:  Re: Carabidae..........Syntomus obscuroguttatus ...........?

hi bogdan

your specimen is clearly teneral and therefore not fully pigmented, otherwise the belly should be blackish, irrespective of the concerned species (here, abdomen is not obviously darker than legs)

anyway, S. obscuroguttatus has more parallel-sided, less rounded elytra, with more obvious shoulders, and not uniformly coloured, with faint, ill-limited paler humeral and apical spots

Autore:  gomphus [ 04/09/2012, 21:41 ]
Oggetto del messaggio:  Re: Carabidae..........Syntomus obscuroguttatus ...........?

gabrif ha scritto:
Might be S. pallipes :roll: :roll: :roll:
:hi: :hi: G.

:ok: :roll:

now, a comparison with collection material of both truncatellus and pallipes is needed

Autore:  Bogdan_bio [ 04/09/2012, 21:57 ]
Oggetto del messaggio:  Re: Carabidae..........Syntomus obscuroguttatus ...........?

Maurizio
Thank you for all the information and help. After another look I agree with you and Gabrif for the S. pallipes.
You mention a comparation I have a S. truncatellus and I had compared with it that's why I am sure it's not truncatellus.

Also thank to you too Gabrif.


All the best

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