Length is 7mm.
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| Autore: | Joro [ 03/05/2016, 10:21 ] | ||
| Oggetto del messaggio: | Pterostichus (Parahaptoderus) vecors (Tschitscherine, 1897) (cf.) - Carabidae | ||
Length is 7mm.
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| Autore: | gomphus [ 03/05/2016, 14:39 ] |
| Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: Carabidae |
hi georgi it looks like an immature Molops sp., yet the size is quite small... are you sure about it? anyway, without a male from the same locality, i doubt very much it will ever be possible to identify the species |
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| Autore: | Joro [ 03/05/2016, 15:18 ] |
| Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: Carabidae |
Thank you, Maurizio! The size is correct. Unfortenately a single specimen from the forest floor. I found 2 Molops specimens, too, but they are really larger and from a different place and habitat, 3-4 kms away , alpine meadows. |
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| Autore: | Joro [ 03/05/2016, 15:25 ] |
| Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: Carabidae |
I see 2 setae on the apical thirth of elytra. Is this normal for Molops? |
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| Autore: | gomphus [ 03/05/2016, 15:32 ] |
| Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: Carabidae |
please check if: 1) there are, or not, setae on 3rd interval of elytra 2) there is, or not, a seta at posterior angles of pronotum 3) the 3rd antennomere is pubescent in apical half, or it is glabrous, except for apical half (it could also be a Tapinopterus...) p.s. for next two days, i will not have an internet connection |
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| Autore: | strepens [ 03/05/2016, 18:11 ] |
| Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: Carabidae |
hello Georgi, There is a notable feature in your specimen: the absence of scutellar stria. My first impression was that belongs to the genus Platyderus, but as I think, in all the species of this genus, the scutellar stria exist. So my next thought was the genus Pterostichus. There, at the subgenus Cryobius Chaudoir, 1838 (= Haptoderus Chaudoir, 1838), in several species, the scutellar stria is missing. Thus, three possible species are -Pterostichus (Cryobius) pumilio (Dejean 1828) [referred to in Romania, but not in Bulgaria] -Pterostichus (Cryobius) properans (Chaudoir 1868) [Bulgaria and Turkey] and -Pterostichus (Cryobius) vecors ( Tschitscherine, 1897) [also Bulgaria and Turkey]. In the collection here, there are 2 males, identified as Pterostichus (Cryobius) vecors (Tschitscherine, 1897). They are very similar to yours, but black in color. you can see also, here: http://carabidae.org/taxa/cryobius-chau ... 8?mode=all ciao from Athens, George 
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| Autore: | Joro [ 04/05/2016, 8:49 ] |
| Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: Carabidae |
Thank you for the efforts, both of you! I think at this stage we should agree with George. Pterostichus vecors |
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| Autore: | strepens [ 04/05/2016, 17:19 ] |
| Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: Carabidae |
From Apfelbeck, 1904 (Kaferfauna der Balkanhalbinsel), the species Pterostichus properans not match, neither at the description nor at the size (9.5-10 mm). The species Pterostichus vecors fits much better, both at the description and at the size (7.5-7.75 mm), as also at the capture area (Etropol Balkan), located close to your own locality. My specimens, have a length of 7.25 and 7.3 mm and have captured a little further east (pass between Gabrovo and Kazanlak - Shipcenska planina, if it is written correctly). Correction for the color: these specimens are very dark brown. Not completely black ...  So perhaps the best that we can propose (as long as there isn't another opinion) is Pterostichus cf. vecors.
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