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And now Dorcadion from Greece.

Please confirm the determination: Dorcadion tuleskovi HEYROVSKY, 1937 - det. J. Kurzawa

Greece, Thesalia, Mt. Ossa,
21 V 2008, leg A. Woźniak
12 mm.

tuleskovi - endemic sp of Oros Olimpos ( apical portion of the lateral edge of the tibiae curved outwards, what looks like it )

Dorcadions from Oros Ossa - ossae, etruscum, bilineatum, thessalicum

P.S. I remember this specimen from somewhere a few years ago and if I remember well and even that time I had a doubt about the locality...

It looks like tuleskovi, but it has not been recorded from Ossa and never will be, can`t be. Another " tip " could be very very very strange ossae - I would eat a horse, if it would be !

Photo or at least drawing of apex of middle lobe of penis is needed !

Undetermined till I will see^^^.

Ciao amico

Thank you Zdenko.

I gather all doubtful and undeterminated Dorcadion spp. what my collection, and one fine day will send them to you.

Ciao, my friend!

I want explain - I was determine this specimen only on the base on the one photo on polish forum
http://www.entomo.pl/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 02#p187102
with some doubts. "Determination" specimens of Adam are always treated as game, recreation because Adam is author of a lot "puzzle games" on ours forum.

This specimen (more specimens?) need(s) more acurate study.

Jacek, it is tuleskovi, BUT the locality is > wrong ! I m sure tuleskovi can`t get to Ossa in no way...and I m sure this specimen is from Olympos Mts

Pozdrawiam

I am glad that you confirm my provisional determination; I wasn't sure it ;-)

Anyway it is interesting that a one species can't be (if it is true) distributed widely, simultaneously on the mts. Olympos and Ossa (40 km between peaks). Do You know any reasons for such a situation or any source (literature, discussion on Forum) which can explain it?

simple - high altitude specie won`t go any lower than it is its limit. These won`t go any lower than 2000m ( many reasons- temperature, air pressure, length of the four season cycle, sometime foodplant ) + endemism. Between Ossa and Olympos is a big valley almost on the see level. BUT said that, I can` t say, that Adam`s datas are wrong. There is always a possibility! Personally I m sceptic about such a things, because of my experiences specially with greek species...

Topic seems more interesting!

I am convinced that shown by me in this topic Dorcadion was collected by me 21 May 2008 on the slopes of Mount Ossa.
I caught him in the company of fellow entomologists: Paweł Górski and Krzysztof Łoś. They also have specimens from there. 'll Check with them whether they belong to the same species.

Jacek, Zdeno!