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Autore: | Entomofou [ 01/04/2012, 13:18 ] |
Oggetto del messaggio: | Morimus asper verecundus (Faldermann, 1836) - Cerambycidae |
Hi, I am not sure about the identity of this one : 32 mm, Leg. V. Dolin Regards, Stéphane |
Autore: | zdeno [ 01/04/2012, 14:13 ] |
Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: Morimus ... |
It can be only Morimus verecundus, however I aint sure if it`s a valid taxon. Personally I think, that all of them ( ganglbaueri, verecundus, asper, and of course funereus ) are just all variations or if you want then subspecies of M. asper. ![]() |
Autore: | Entomofou [ 01/04/2012, 23:11 ] |
Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: Morimus ... |
Thank you Zdeno. Stéphane |
Autore: | Marco23 [ 02/04/2012, 8:17 ] |
Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: Morimus ... |
Yes, it is M. verecundus. But it's right, genetic studies that will be published soon by a research group of Rome University, demonstrated that all the European Morimus species are likely synonyms of M. asper. |
Autore: | Xylosteus [ 02/04/2012, 10:05 ] |
Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: Morimus asper verecundus (Faldermann, 1836) - Cerambycidae |
Yes it is right. But the different forms belong to local subspecies (funereus, verecundus and orientalis). Morimus ganglabueri is only a transition form between asper asper and asper funereus (all the specimens from Friuli, Wesyern Slovenia, Southern Istria, Albania and so on). Ciao Pierpaolo |
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