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Autore: | Plagionotus [ 26/04/2015, 12:16 ] |
Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: Xylotrechus pantherinus (Savenius, 1825) |
Very interesting, as always, Adam. In Italy it is present only in Alto Adige and Trentino, were it is reported in just one collection, by my informations. In these localities it's very difficult to find it though, and few exemplars are found. |
Autore: | Uncle Adam [ 26/04/2015, 12:31 ] |
Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: Xylotrechus pantherinus (Savenius, 1825) |
Thank you very much, Riccardo. ![]() X. pantherinus in Poland in recent years has been listed more often in different locations. Just for him, it grows a little bit older, diseased trees Salix caprea. Imagines very hard to see. It is much better to look for larvae, pupae and round exit holes in the bark. |
Autore: | Plagionotus [ 26/04/2015, 14:15 ] |
Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: Xylotrechus pantherinus (Savenius, 1825) |
You're right! This is the same thing that said me two friends of mine from Alto Adige. |
Autore: | Entomarci [ 26/04/2015, 16:21 ] |
Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: Xylotrechus pantherinus (Savenius, 1825) |
In living wood right? |
Autore: | Uncle Adam [ 26/04/2015, 16:56 ] |
Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: Xylotrechus pantherinus (Savenius, 1825) |
In Poland, X. pantherinus has 3 years of development. The larvae first feed in a living wood, and end development in dead wood. I have not met the young larvae in the wood completely dead. I found it in both branches of the cross-section of 3 cm and in trunks section 20 cm. Best for the development of this species are partially blind and partially live tree, suffering, and weakened. And another interesting fact: I have never met on the same tree Xylotrechus pantherinus with Saperda similis! ![]() |
Autore: | Daniele Maccapani [ 26/04/2015, 17:08 ] |
Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: Xylotrechus pantherinus (Savenius, 1825) |
Actually it's a "Rusticoclytus", right? ![]() ![]() |
Autore: | AleP [ 26/04/2015, 17:21 ] |
Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: Xylotrechus pantherinus (Savenius, 1825) |
Adam, very interesting as usual for your reports! ![]() I would like to dedicate some time to searching this species in the Italian Alps. I know at least 2 sites where weakened Salix caprea are present and I am wondering whethere this beautiful "guy" is inside them! ![]() |
Autore: | Uncle Adam [ 26/04/2015, 17:26 ] |
Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: Xylotrechus pantherinus (Savenius, 1825) |
Daniele, if someone prefers it, to him would be: Xylotrechus (Rusticoclytus) pantherinus. ![]() Alessandro, thank you for your kind words and I wish you success in your search! ![]() Do not look only at the tree by the roadside. See also in the depths of the forest. S. similis likes to light and heat, but X. pantherinus does not have to be so much. |
Autore: | Plagionotus [ 27/04/2015, 16:40 ] |
Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: Xylotrechus pantherinus (Savenius, 1825) |
Daniele Maccapani ha scritto: Actually it's a "Rusticoclytus", right? ![]() ![]() Sì, Daniele, nella nomenclatura che abbiamo deciso di adottare nel forum è Rusticoclytus. |
Autore: | Phytoecia [ 27/04/2015, 19:40 ] |
Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: Xylotrechus pantherinus (Savenius, 1825) |
Plagionotus ha scritto: Daniele Maccapani ha scritto: Actually it's a "Rusticoclytus", right? ![]() che abbiamo deciso di adottare nel forum è Rusticoclytus. Is or not? Someone treated Rusticoclytus as genus, others as genus. All right. Sama 2002 placed Rusticoclytus as synonim of genus Xylotrechus. Later we have CPC (2010) - proposed rank of Rusticoclytus is genus. Later Danilevsky (2012, part III) proposed Rusticoclytus sgen. as subgenus of Xylotrechus.. Rusticoclytus on FEI is not scientific point view for problem but only temporary working solution. You can not confuse this with publications. |
Autore: | Entomarci [ 27/04/2015, 21:04 ] |
Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: Rusticoclytus pantherinus (Savenius, 1825) - Cerambycidae |
i suppose that FEI can decide to adopte a nomenclatural way such as a specialist is free to propose it or another. In beetles it's frequent this, and nobody has finally autority to point a definitively solution, but only propose by supporting with dates and info... ![]() |
Autore: | Phytoecia [ 27/04/2015, 21:08 ] |
Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: Rusticoclytus pantherinus (Savenius, 1825) - Cerambycidae |
Entomarci ha scritto: i suppose that FEI can decide to adopte a nomenclatural way such as a specialist is free to propose it or another. No way! Nobody can't DECIDE. Someone can proposed yours own point of view for problem, that's all. |
Autore: | Uncle Adam [ 27/04/2015, 23:11 ] |
Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: Rusticoclytus pantherinus (Savenius, 1825) - Cerambycidae |
You're right, Jacek! ![]() Is it possible to restore the title of my topic: Xylotrechus rusticus? |
Autore: | Phytoecia [ 27/04/2015, 23:15 ] |
Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: Rusticoclytus pantherinus (Savenius, 1825) - Cerambycidae |
I suppose that is unpossible. As has been previously written FEI have a own system of names (I agree with Entomarci). You must rather accepted it. It is not important as you think, Adam. Look here: db.php?mode=data_list&db_id=1&view=thumbs&level=1&key=5 |
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