Deroplia albida (Brullé, 1838)
CANARY ISL., Tenerife, Tamaimo env.
III/2010
pupa in branch of dead shrub Euphorbia regis-jubae.
| Allegati: |
|
|
| Forum Entomologi Italiani http://www.entomologiitaliani.net/public/forum/phpbb3/ |
|
| Deroplia albida (Brullé, 1839) - Cerambycidae, Tenerife (Canary Isl.) http://www.entomologiitaliani.net/public/forum/phpbb3/viewtopic.php?f=145&t=6779 |
Pagina 1 di 1 |
| Autore: | Trichoferus [ 17/04/2010, 21:41 ] | ||
| Oggetto del messaggio: | Deroplia albida (Brullé, 1839) - Cerambycidae, Tenerife (Canary Isl.) | ||
Deroplia albida (Brullé, 1838) CANARY ISL., Tenerife, Tamaimo env. III/2010 pupa in branch of dead shrub Euphorbia regis-jubae.
|
|||
| Autore: | Hemerobius [ 17/04/2010, 22:50 ] |
| Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: Deroplia albida (Brullé, 1838) - Cerambycidae, Tenerife (Canary Isl.) |
Dear Jan, a question. Why you use 1838 as description year? The correct year should be 1839. Ciao Roberto 
|
|
| Autore: | Trichoferus [ 17/04/2010, 23:35 ] |
| Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: Deroplia albida (Brullé, 1838) - Cerambycidae, Tenerife (Canary Isl.) |
Hemerobius ha scritto: Dear Jan, a question. Why you use 1838 as description year? The correct year should be 1839. Ciao Roberto Hallo Roberto, I used version from Gianfranco Sama´s publication "Revision du genre Deroplia", but maybe since 1996 there was some correction of the year.. i don´t know about it. Ciao, Jan 
|
|
| Autore: | Isotomus [ 18/04/2010, 7:52 ] |
| Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: Deroplia albida (Brullé, 1838) - Cerambycidae, Tenerife (Canary Isl.) |
Trichoferus ha scritto: Hemerobius ha scritto: Dear Jan, a question. Why you use 1838 as description year? The correct year should be 1839. Ciao Roberto Hallo Roberto, I used version from Gianfranco Sama´s publication "Revision du genre Deroplia", but maybe since 1996 there was some correction of the year.. i don´t know about it. Ciao, Jan Sorry Jan, after the publication of my revision of 1996 I was able to check the correct year of this important work of Brullé. This is what I am writing in my Monograph of the Cerambycidae from the Atlantic Islands in preparation. Brullé A.G., 1839 (not 1838): Animaux articulés recueillis aux Iles Canaries par MM. Webb et Berthelot. In: Webb F.P. & Berthelot S.: Histoire naturelle des Iles Canaries (1835-1844) - The date of publication of this book is 1839 instead of 1838. This has been stated by Horn & Schenkling (1928: 145) and proved by Stearn (1937). I am obliged to Mrs. Sharon Shute (BMNH) for the following note (12 May 2006): “Stearn, 1937 states that the work Histoire Naturelle des Iles Canaries was published between 1835 and 1850 in 106 parts (Livraisons). Each part contained misc. various subject matter/plates that were intended to be broken up to eventually form three volumes each of two or three parts, on completion of publication. The Entomology parts were bound in volume II part ii. The text consisted of parts 1-44 all issued from June to October in 1839. The plates however were issued from 1836 onwards, see Stearn p. 55. The insect text runs from pp. 53-119 and is prefaced by a white page on which the word INSECTES is printed. The Cerambycidae are on pages 62 - 63 which would have been in part 42 issued in Sept. 1839. I am sending you copies of Stearns paper and the pages on the Cerambycidae from the ..Iles Canaries. Plate 1 which has the Cerambycidae on was issued in part 50 on July 1840”. |
|
| Autore: | Hemerobius [ 18/04/2010, 8:25 ] |
| Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: Deroplia albida (Brullé, 1838) - Cerambycidae, Tenerife (Canary Isl.) |
I know it only because Brullé described, in the same work, some Neuroptera  .Roberto PS per Gianfranco: mi interesserebbe molto il lavoro di Stearn (1937)  , non è che me lo puoi far avere?
|
|
| Autore: | Isotomus [ 18/04/2010, 9:07 ] |
| Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: Deroplia albida (Brullé, 1838) - Cerambycidae, Tenerife (Canary Isl.) |
Roberto, ho cercato il lavoro ma non l'ho trovato nella cartella in cui dovrebbe essere. probabilmente è in qualche parte della scrivania sommerso fra le carte usate per la monografia. Appena la trovo te la mando, ammesso che sia completa e non riguardi, invece, solo una pagina. |
|
| Autore: | Hemerobius [ 18/04/2010, 9:19 ] |
| Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: Deroplia albida (Brullé, 1838) - Cerambycidae, Tenerife (Canary Isl.) |
Mi interessa perché, prima di avere da te il lavoro di Evenhuis e scoprire l'esistenza di Stearn, avevo trovato una traccia molto interessante ed accessibile (la biblioteca Webb è a Firenze) per datare le varie parti dell'opera (vedi allegato) e vorrei controllare se Stearn si è basato sullo stesso documento o meno. Roberto
|
|
| Autore: | Trichoferus [ 18/04/2010, 10:49 ] |
| Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: Deroplia albida (Brullé, 1839) - Cerambycidae, Tenerife (Canary Isl.) |
Thank you very much for explanation.  Gianfranco, do you have any information, when Atlas of Cerambycidae of Europe and Mediterranean Area, Volume II - Northern Africa will be released? This year? Thanks. Jan 
|
|
| Autore: | Isotomus [ 18/04/2010, 11:26 ] |
| Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: Deroplia albida (Brullé, 1839) - Cerambycidae, Tenerife (Canary Isl.) |
The delay is due to my responsibility: I hope that the book, which will include the Cerambycidae from both Northern Africa and the Atlantic Islands (volume II and III respectively), will be published this year. The pictures (taken by the editor himself) are ready, the drawings (about 300) (mostly made by me) have already been delivered to the editor. I only have to discuss some questions with him. |
|
| Autore: | Trichoferus [ 18/04/2010, 11:47 ] |
| Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: Deroplia albida (Brullé, 1839) - Cerambycidae, Tenerife (Canary Isl.) |
You don´t have to appologize, I can imagine, how difficult it must be.. I am looking forward to Vol. II. and III. very much.. 
|
|
| Pagina 1 di 1 | Tutti gli orari sono UTC + 1 ora [ ora legale ] |
| Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group http://www.phpbb.com/ |
|
