Forum Entomologi Italiani

Netocia ungarica ssp.?

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Guido Sabatinelli
Museo di storia naturale, Ginevra, Svizzera
http://www.glaphyridae.com
http://www.scarabeidi.it

hungarica ssp. persica Kraatz, 1886

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Research Fields
Taxonomy, ecology, biomonitoring , faunistic of Staphylinidae

Thanks Jan. What is correct now hungarica or ungarica? The ssp. is without the white spots but it is not the same for the ssp. armeniaca.
Since I am sure you have all in your collection, can you please present a picture of P. hungarica and its ssp.? Thanks

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Guido Sabatinelli
Museo di storia naturale, Ginevra, Svizzera
http://www.glaphyridae.com
http://www.scarabeidi.it

Protaetia (Netocia) hungarica Herbst, 1790

hungarica Herbst, 1790.................C. Europe, S. Europe
quadriguttata Motschulsky, 1845; ungarica auct.; viridis Fabricius, 1792
hungarica ssp. anatolica Medvedev, 1947...............Turkey
hungarica ssp. armeniaca Menetries, 1832...........................Transcaucasia
hungarica ssp. auliensis Reitter, 1901......................S. Kasakhstan
cirsii Motschulsky, 1845
hungarica ssp. coerulea Petrovitz, 1967 ................................Turkey
hungarica ssp. ignisternum Reitter, 1891................................Iran
hungarica ssp. ignithorax Reitter, 1891.............................Transcaucasia
hungarica ssp. inderiensis Krynicki, 1832....................Kasakhstan, Altai
zoubkovii Faldemann, 1836
hungarica ssp. lucina Reitter, 1898...................................Transcaucasia
hungarica ssp. mongolica Reitter, 1898....................Mongolia
hungarica ssp. paulina Reitter 1898........................Turkey
hungarica ssp. persica Kraatz, 1886.........................Iran, Iraq
hungarica ssp. pseudoviridana Medvedev,1947 ....................Transcaspia
hungarica ssp. sibirica Gebler, 1829 ..........................Siberia, Mongolia
hungarica ssp. simplex Schilsky, 1888 ......................Austria
hungarica ssp.viridana Brulle, 1832................................Greece

in the collection I only this subspecies see photo

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Research Fields
Taxonomy, ecology, biomonitoring , faunistic of Staphylinidae

Soms photos on my blog :

P. persica
P. ungarica with some subspecies

I have to make a lot of new fotos for illustration of variations and other subspecies...

per favore cambiare il titolo a Protaetia (Netocia) hungarica ssp. persica Kraatz, 1886, Grazie, Guido

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Guido Sabatinelli
Museo di storia naturale, Ginevra, Svizzera
http://www.glaphyridae.com
http://www.scarabeidi.it

The more I see this specimen, the less I think it is P. persica. many things don't match : the look of the suture between mesosternal process and mesosternum which should be irregular, the mesosternum which is not enough punctuated, etc...

Tigran, have you an idea about this specimen ?

Dear Stephane, confused sculpture upper side elytra and pronotum punctures.
Do peach body wider elytra smoother.
in the same way I look at prosternum. In P. persica he is big, round and covered with hairs (
unstable mark).
Another important trait. P. persica body looks "short" as if "square."
Elytra more smooth, with little wrinkled.
According to this beetle conceptualy similar to P. hungarica armeniaca.Very similar sample I caught at the south of Armenia.
But also analyze its exemplar of catching area, I conclude that the beetle is likely P. (Netocia) hungarica pseudoviridiana (Medvedev, 1947).

contrordine Compagni, per favore rinominiamo come Protaetia (Netocia) hungarica ssp. pseudoviridiana (Medvedev, 1947)
Grazie, Guido

Perché è tra i carabi?

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Michael

Ora è corretto