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| Autore: | chus [ 16/05/2020, 20:10 ] | ||
| Oggetto del messaggio: | Sericotrupes niger (Marsham, 1802) - Geotrupidae | ||
Hi ¡ I am not sure if this sp. is a Geotrupes, I have been comparing this sp with geotrupes from spain : Geotrupes ibericus Baraud, 1958 Geotrupes mutator (Marsham, 1802) Geotrupes puncticollis (Malinowsky, 1811) Geotrupes stercorarius (Linnaeus, 1758) but all of them have the elitra lines really visible. Another possibility is Jekelius or Thorectes. Bests.
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| Autore: | Tc70 [ 16/05/2020, 20:34 ] |
| Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: Geotrupidae sp. |
Hi, take a picture also ventrally It seems to me a A.stercoraris...sure not a G. mutator...but I don't know the other 2... 
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| Autore: | chus [ 17/05/2020, 14:03 ] | ||
| Oggetto del messaggio: | Geotrupidae sp. | ||
Hi ¡¡ here you an find the ventral photo
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| Autore: | Creedence [ 17/05/2020, 14:27 ] |
| Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: Geotrupidae sp. |
Now it is easy: Sericotrupes niger (Marsham, 1802). By the way, Geotrupes puncticollis (Malinowsky, 1811) is a junior synonym of G. spiniger (Marsham, 1802). |
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| Autore: | Tc70 [ 17/05/2020, 15:18 ] |
| Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: Geotrupidae sp. |
Creedence ha scritto: Now it is easy: Sericotrupes niger (Marsham, 1802). By the way, Geotrupes puncticollis (Malinowsky, 1811) is a junior synonym of G. spiniger (Marsham, 1802). The ventral photo helped a lot, I agree with Marco on the identification.  
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| Autore: | chus [ 17/05/2020, 16:21 ] |
| Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: Geotrupidae sp. |
Thanks so much ¡ |
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| Autore: | chus [ 17/05/2020, 16:23 ] |
| Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: Geotrupidae sp. |
Whats the main difference between secicotrupes and geotrupes? because I find them really similar¡ Bests |
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| Autore: | Creedence [ 17/05/2020, 18:08 ] |
| Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: Geotrupidae sp. |
Geotrupes: elytral striae very deeply impressed; elytral interstriae convex; upper surface more or less shiny. Sericotrupes: elytral striae faintly impressed; elytral interstriae flat; upper surface not so shiny, almost silky. |
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| Autore: | chus [ 17/05/2020, 23:39 ] |
| Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: Geotrupidae sp. |
Tnaks so much¡¡¡¡
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