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questo melolontid è stato raccolto nei pressi di Atene (38.163246/24.035564) nel 22.maggio.2010 (2 maschi).
è possibile avere un nome completo?

maschio e la sua genitalia.

grazie

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Cosmin-Ovidiu Manci
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Dragonflies of Romania

Hi Cosmin, I suggest Amphimallon caucasicum (Gyllenhal,1817). This evening I'll check yr pic of the male genitalia with the specimens in my collection. Cheers, Clickie

Andrea,

hai riusciti a dare un'occhiata nella tua collezione ?

grazie, cosmln

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Cosmin-Ovidiu Manci
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cosmln's place - my blog
just insects
Dragonflies of Romania

Not yet, sorry. Hope this evening

Hi Cosmin. Yd I checked my collection, and yr pics fit well with my specimens. My ID following Baraud's key, who doesn't depict male genitalia. Anyway, I knoww this species from three localities in western coast of Attiki and from northern Peloponnese. Diurnal, flying around in garigue or low shrubs formations. Cheers, Clickie

grazie Andrea.

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Cosmin-Ovidiu Manci
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cosmln's place - my blog
just insects
Dragonflies of Romania

hi

the valid name of this taxon is vernale Brullé - caucasicum refers to a Holochelus (Miltotrogus).

ciao
Denis

so this:


is not a valid one?
in this case what is the valid name... at least after FaEU there is no Amphimallon caucasicum (Gyllenhal,1817) or Amphimallon vernalis/vernale (Brulle,1832) ... or just caucasicum (Gyllenhal,1817) or vernalis/vernale (Brulle,1832) ... is like this name of species don't exist... just one of the many mistake?

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Cosmin-Ovidiu Manci
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cosmln's place - my blog
just insects
Dragonflies of Romania

Olivier Montreuil checked the HT of caucasicum for his PhD, I saw it also! caucasicum belongs to Holochelus. Therefore the first valid and available name is vernale Brullé. this was published was after 1992, date of publication of Baraud's work. anyway, i corrected the part Rhizotrogini for the catalogus coleopterorum but this correction was not retained, Ales didn't tell why..

Questa discussione non è stata rinominata. L'intervento di Keith credo lo renda necessario.

A.

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Ciao

Carlo