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Aplidia sp. - Melolonthidae
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Autore:  Baris99 [ 21/06/2015, 19:33 ]
Oggetto del messaggio:  Aplidia sp. - Melolonthidae

Aplidia sp?
Size:19 mm

Allegati:
Scarabaeidae sp 19mm 17-06-2015 Ev-6.jpg

Scarabaeidae sp 19mm 17-06-2015 Ev-5.jpg

Scarabaeidae sp 19mm 17-06-2015 Ev-4.jpg


Autore:  Baris99 [ 26/06/2015, 19:09 ]
Oggetto del messaggio:  Re: Scarabaeidae:Aplidia sp?

:no1:

Autore:  TheWings [ 26/06/2015, 20:02 ]
Oggetto del messaggio:  Re: Scarabaeidae:Aplidia sp?

Baris, for me maybe A. transversa, check it!

:hi: Claudio

Autore:  Glaphyrus [ 27/06/2015, 17:56 ]
Oggetto del messaggio:  Re: Scarabaeidae:Aplidia sp?

It is a female.
A reliable identification of Aplidia is mostly based on male genitalia.
Males can be recognised for the mat appearance of the dorsal side (shining in females).

Autore:  Baris99 [ 27/06/2015, 18:22 ]
Oggetto del messaggio:  Re: Scarabaeidae:Aplidia sp?

I have 9 specimen(2 pair collected while mating).So I have at least 2 male specimen.If I extract genitalia can it be determinated?
I will put the photo here tomorrow after I extract the aedeagus.

Autore:  Baris99 [ 28/06/2015, 13:00 ]
Oggetto del messaggio:  Re: Scarabaeidae:Aplidia sp?

I found the revsion of this genus in our library:
viewtopic.php?f=225&t=3665
On page 5,figure 5 looks similar but not the same,A.turcica and also the specimen is from Istanbul.I couldn't find any exactly same looking paramere?What do you think?

Allegati:
Scarabaeidae sp 19mm 17-06-2015 Ev-7.jpg


Autore:  Baris99 [ 28/06/2015, 17:37 ]
Oggetto del messaggio:  Re: Scarabaeidae:Aplidia sp?

Better photos:
Scarabaeidae sp 19mm 17-06-2015 Ev-10.jpg


Scarabaeidae sp 19mm 17-06-2015 Ev-12.jpg


Autore:  Glaphyrus [ 28/06/2015, 17:48 ]
Oggetto del messaggio:  Re: Scarabaeidae:Aplidia sp?

Yes, it is possibly A. turcica, the shape of the pronotal margin would also fit this hypothesis.
However this is just a putative identification.
Paramera of the A. transversa group are similar each other, and A. turcica is not well characterised against A. transversa.
Note that few years ago a new species with such paramera (A. chloes) has been described from Nysiros, then collected also in Kos and Lesbos.

So, giving names based on few photos is not the best way to work with this group.

Autore:  Baris99 [ 28/06/2015, 18:48 ]
Oggetto del messaggio:  Re: Scarabaeidae:Aplidia sp?

So you say that we are between A.turcica and transversa?
So the apex of the internal part of aedeagus looks different in these species.So I take the photo of this part.
Now we are sure that it is not A.transversa because the apex of the internal part of aedeagus is totally different from A.transversa.It is still similar to A.turcica but still not identical.

Allegati:
Scarabaeidae sp 19mm 17-06-2015 Ev-15.jpg

Scarabaeidae sp 19mm 17-06-2015 Ev-13.jpg

Scarabaeidae sp 19mm 17-06-2015 Ev-14.jpg


Autore:  Baris99 [ 10/10/2015, 11:24 ]
Oggetto del messaggio:  Re: Scarabaeidae:Aplidia sp?

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