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Scarabaeus pius (Illiger, 1803) - Scarabaeidae - Greece

18.V.2010 - GRECIA - EE, Thracia

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cosmln

Oggetto del messaggio: Scarabaeus pius (Illiger, 1803) - Scarabaeidae - Greece

Inviato: 26/09/2010, 23:50

Iscritto il: 26/03/2010, 14:55
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Località: Romania
Nome: Cosmin-Ovidiu Manci

in north of Greece this was the commonest Scarabaeus. was interesting to observe this one on work. I don't know why but in Romania this species is mainly a nocturnal one...

so this one collected in north-east of Greece, Thracia (41.304526/26.094544) in 18.may.2010, size of this male is 25 mm.

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Maurizio Bollino

Oggetto del messaggio: Re: Scarabaeus (Scarabaeus) typhon (Fischer 1824) - Scarabaeidae - Greece

Inviato: 27/09/2010, 0:04

Iscritto il: 25/11/2009, 9:31
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Nome: Maurizio Bollino

We found pius (Illiger) really common near Konitsa: tens of specimens either flying over the grass and hardly working!!

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cosmln

Oggetto del messaggio: Re: Scarabaeus (Scarabaeus) typhon (Fischer 1824) - Scarabaeidae - Greece

Inviato: 27/09/2010, 0:11

Iscritto il: 26/03/2010, 14:55
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Nome: Cosmin-Ovidiu Manci

Maurizio Bollino ha scritto:

We found pius (Illiger) really common near Konitsa: tens of specimens either flying over the grass and hardly working!!

now when working on material from Greece hope to find some in collected material... will be new for me

more to the south for me very common was variolosus Fabricius, 1787... a photo with this one here.

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Oggetto del messaggio: Re: Scarabaeus (Scarabaeus) typhon (Fischer 1824) - Scarabaeidae - Greece

Inviato: 27/09/2010, 19:09

Iscritto il: 16/05/2010, 14:26
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Nome: Zdenko Lucbauer

[quote="cosmln"]
more to the south for me very common was variolosus Fabricius, 1787... a photo with this one here.

I would say, that is semipunctatus :roll:

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zdeno

Oggetto del messaggio: Re: Scarabaeus (Scarabaeus) typhon (Fischer 1824) - Scarabaeidae - Greece

Inviato: 27/09/2010, 19:10

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Maurizio Bollino ha scritto:

We found pius (Illiger) really common near Konitsa: tens of specimens either flying over the grass and hardly working!!

Maurizio, do u know difference between typhon and pius ?

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Maurizio Bollino

Oggetto del messaggio: Re: Scarabaeus (Scarabaeus) typhon (Fischer 1824) - Scarabaeidae - Greece

Inviato: 27/09/2010, 19:42

Iscritto il: 25/11/2009, 9:31
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zdeno ha scritto:

Maurizio Bollino ha scritto:

We found pius (Illiger) really common near Konitsa: tens of specimens either flying over the grass and hardly working!!

Maurizio, do u know difference between typhon and pius ?

Yes: pius is the only species WITHOUT a furrow on posterior margin of pronotum.

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cosmln

Oggetto del messaggio: Re: Scarabaeus (Scarabaeus) typhon (Fischer 1824) - Scarabaeidae - Greece

Inviato: 27/09/2010, 20:36

Iscritto il: 26/03/2010, 14:55
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Nome: Cosmin-Ovidiu Manci

zdeno ha scritto:

I would say, that is semipunctatus :roll:

from what I know in the books (Baraud, 1992) semipunctatus Fabricius, 1792 is not even present in Greece.
but anyway semipunctatus don't have this big "points" on elitrae. This character being shared in our area only with cicatricosus(Lucas, 1849).

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zdeno

Oggetto del messaggio: Re: Scarabaeus (Scarabaeus) typhon (Fischer 1824) - Scarabaeidae - Greece

Inviato: 28/09/2010, 18:00

Iscritto il: 16/05/2010, 14:26
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cosmln ha scritto:

zdeno ha scritto:

I would say, that is semipunctatus :roll:

Thanks for explanation to both of ya :ok:

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cosmln

Oggetto del messaggio: Re: Scarabaeus (Scarabaeus) typhon (Fischer 1824) - Scarabaeidae - Greece

Inviato: 15/12/2010, 18:41

Iscritto il: 26/03/2010, 14:55
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Nome: Cosmin-Ovidiu Manci

this days I have prepared some more specimens of Scarabaeus and just realized that I have IDed wrongly this one.
in fact this is Scarabaeus pius (Illiger, 1803). sorry for this mistake. :oops:

soon will come with some photos of Scarabaeus typhon.

and to complete this, Scarabaeus pius (Illiger, 1803) - another male (a better photo) and his genitalia.
this male collected in north-east of Greece, Thracia (41.324481/26.019188) in 19.may.2010, leg. Cosmin O. Manci.