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Onthophagus (Strandius) sp. - Scarabaeidae Himalaya
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Autore:  Honza [ 01/01/2010, 0:01 ]
Oggetto del messaggio:  Onthophagus (Strandius) sp. - Scarabaeidae Himalaya

Please help :roll:

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Autore:  Creedence [ 01/01/2010, 12:20 ]
Oggetto del messaggio:  Re: Coprini ?

Onthophagus subgenus Strandius Balthasar, 1963

Autore:  Honza [ 01/01/2010, 14:45 ]
Oggetto del messaggio:  Re: Onthophagus subgenus Strandius Balthasar, 1963 - Scarabaeidae

Thank you very much :ok:

Autore:  Honza [ 02/01/2010, 14:06 ]
Oggetto del messaggio:  Re: Onthophagus subgenus Strandius Balthasar, 1963 - Scarabaeidae

Onthophagus (Strandius) gagates Hope, 1831

Balthasar: 2.Tiel Coprinae (Onitini, Oniticellini, Onthophagini).
Verlag der Tschechoslowakischen Akademie der Wissenschaften.
Prag. 1963. 628 S. + XVI Taf.

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Autore:  Notoxus59 [ 02/01/2010, 14:54 ]
Oggetto del messaggio:  Re: Onthophagus (Strandius) gagates Hope, 1831 - Scarabaeidae

Hallo Honza,
sure both gagates? sorry I do not understand anything, but the clypeus is simple in design, whereas yours is bifid. Can be the difference between male and female?

Autore:  Honza [ 02/01/2010, 15:27 ]
Oggetto del messaggio:  Re: Onthophagus (Strandius) gagates Hope, 1831 - Scarabaeidae

I am not a specialist in this group.I compared it with pieces in the collection colleagues,females and males differ.Described 17 species of this group.Only species gagates is Kaschmir.I could make a mistake. :oops:Maybe it's a new species :roll:

Autore:  Notoxus59 [ 02/01/2010, 15:36 ]
Oggetto del messaggio:  Re: Onthophagus (Strandius) gagates Hope, 1831 - Scarabaeidae

Me neither.
He thinks I do not know anything regarding the family, but if it is not a sexual dimorphism might also be something different, again, why not.

Autore:  Velvet Ant [ 02/01/2010, 16:21 ]
Oggetto del messaggio:  Re: Onthophagus (Strandius) gagates Hope, 1831 - Scarabaeidae

Onthophagus (Strandius) gagates (immagine: Käfer der Welt).
Like Augusto (Notoxus59), I think that the Honza's one is another species.

Autore:  dkeith [ 30/06/2010, 8:02 ]
Oggetto del messaggio:  Re: Onthophagus (Strandius) sp. - Scarabaeidae Himalaya

dear all

it's not possible to come to an end on those pictures: it could be gagatoides kabakov, but you need to check the genitalia

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