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Onthophagus (Palaeonthophagus) joannae Goljan, 1953 (cf.) - Scarabaeidae
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Autore:  superhik [ 10/04/2013, 16:29 ]
Oggetto del messaggio:  Onthophagus (Palaeonthophagus) joannae Goljan, 1953 (cf.) - Scarabaeidae

Dear enthomologists,
I have yet another problematic species I need help to determine.
It is probably Onthophagus ovatus or O. joannae.
As I did never before identify them, I really am not sure.
If anybody could help me I will be grateful :birra:
I know that the main difference is in the genitalia, but I am not sure what to look for.
Many thanks!
Toni

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Autore:  Creedence [ 10/04/2013, 22:45 ]
Oggetto del messaggio:  Re: Coleoptera Onthophagus ovatus/joannae

Not easy at all - not for me, at least - the discrimination between Onthophagus joannae and O. ovatus using external morphological charachters and/or paramera.
Considering the collecting locality, it could be O. joannae, but for a definite ID the vision of the lamella copulatrix is required.

Autore:  superhik [ 11/04/2013, 12:26 ]
Oggetto del messaggio:  Re: Coleoptera Onthophagus ovatus/joannae

Thanks!
I did not know until yesterday that I need to extract this lamina copulatrix...
I will do it and then post it :)
Best regards,
Toni

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