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| Autore: | togaspain [ 01/09/2016, 12:40 ] | ||
| Oggetto del messaggio: | Otiorhynchus (Paracryphiphorus) sp. - Curculionidae | ||
Please your help length 8,5mm
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| Autore: | strepens [ 01/09/2016, 14:38 ] |
| Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: Otiorhynchus sp. |
Hello Tomasz, it looks very similar to the subgenus Paracryphiphorus (difficult subgenus, about 20 species). You must check the corbels of the hind tarsi: -Partially closed.............................................................Paracryphiphorus -Open........................................................other Otiorhynchus subgenera Ciao from Athens, George |
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| Autore: | togaspain [ 01/09/2016, 18:56 ] | ||
| Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: Otiorhynchus sp. | ||
Thank you, George  I hope that the photograph would be helpful Regards!
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| Autore: | strepens [ 01/09/2016, 22:05 ] | ||
| Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: Otiorhynchus sp. | ||
It seems as difficult, but it is not ... What we should be checked, is the surface where the posterior tibia ends up, exactly around where the tarsus is grows. In the remainder Otiorhynchus subgenera, this is a smooth, approximately ellipsoidal, concave surface. In the subgenus Paracryphiphorus, this area shows at the exterior side, a smooth elongated protrusion, which appears to limit somewhat the freedom of the tarsal movement. What is more difficult, is the photographing of this structure. I'm not a good painter, but I made an effort ...
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| Autore: | togaspain [ 01/09/2016, 22:43 ] |
| Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: Otiorhynchus sp. |
Thank you George, Tomorrow peel off the specimen and post the image from the bottom Tomasz
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| Autore: | FORBIX [ 02/09/2016, 9:35 ] |
| Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: Otiorhynchus sp. |
Another good guess is subg. Cryphiphorus.  O.(C.) convexiusculus F. Solari, 1932 ?? O.(C.) subaequivestis F. Solari, 1932 ?? I've never seen these species ..... so, I try to inform me and I will let you know. 
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| Autore: | togaspain [ 02/09/2016, 10:59 ] | ||
| Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: Otiorhynchus sp. | ||
Hello! From the photos it appears that the construction of the legs is shown in Figure 2. (closed) I hope we can move forward Tomasz
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| Autore: | strepens [ 02/09/2016, 12:04 ] |
| Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: Otiorhynchus sp. |
 Closed.Wonderful photo, probably the photo of this construction for the first time in the Internet !!! So, Paracryphiphorus sp. The continuity will be much more difficult...
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| Autore: | togaspain [ 02/09/2016, 12:52 ] |
| Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: Otiorhynchus sp. |
Thank you Leonardo and George! At least the question of the subgenus is explained. Best wishes!
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| Autore: | FORBIX [ 02/09/2016, 12:57 ] |
| Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: Otiorhynchus sp. |
No species of Paracryphiphorus is reported for Albania !! 
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| Autore: | Maurizio Bollino [ 02/09/2016, 13:42 ] |
| Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: Otiorhynchus sp. |
FORBIX ha scritto: No species of Paracryphiphorus is reported for Albania !! but Albanian fauna, at best of my knowledge, is yet not well known, so I presume that some species of Otiorhynchus s.l. are still waiting to be found. |
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| Autore: | togaspain [ 02/09/2016, 15:16 ] |
| Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: Otiorhynchus (Paracryphiphorus) sp. - Curculionidae |
I see that many common species was not reported from Albania. And what these rare or new.
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