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| Autore: | Fumea crassiorella [ 14/06/2011, 11:34 ] | ||
| Oggetto del messaggio: | Pygopleurus vulpes (Fabricius, 1781) - Glaphyridae | ||
Dopo il bellissimo Pigopleurus koniae (vd.viewtopic.php?f=11&t=22970) ho deciso di preparare qualcuno degli innumerevoli glafiridi turchi catturati. Se non mi sbaglio (spero che Marco confermi) questo è un maschio di Pygopleurus vulpes: è lungo circa 13 mm:
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| Autore: | Glaphyrus [ 14/06/2011, 23:08 ] |
| Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: Pygopleurus vulpes (Fabricius, 1781) - Glaphyridae (da confermare) |
Confermo  in foto l'edeago si vede quel tanto che basta da escludere che possa essere un koniae della forma "sbiadita", con cui può essere confuso. E comunque l'avevo osservato bene sul campo, con la lentina portatile.Dimentica pure questo messaggio, ora vado a mettere nero su bianco la determinazione e te la spedisco per raccomandata 
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| Autore: | Honza [ 15/06/2011, 6:45 ] | |||||
| Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: Pygopleurus vulpes (Fabricius, 1781) - Glaphyridae | |||||
Marco Ho la determinazione giusta? (det.Nikodym)
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| Autore: | Glaphyrus [ 15/06/2011, 8:22 ] |
| Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: Pygopleurus vulpes (Fabricius, 1781) - Glaphyridae |
Hi Honza, at least the first of the two females of P. vulpes bogoevski looks like P. humeralis, or less probably, P. apicalis. Did you ckeck for this species? As for the subspecies: currently they are not regarded as valid, but this does not mean they are not. Simply I do not know enough this species to give a thorough opinion. |
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| Autore: | Honza [ 15/06/2011, 9:18 ] | |||
| Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: Pygopleurus vulpes (Fabricius, 1781) - Glaphyridae | |||
Thank you very much,yes Catalog Löbl,Smetana (2006),only Pygopleurus vulpes other synonima.
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| Autore: | Fumea crassiorella [ 23/06/2011, 13:18 ] | ||
| Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: Pygopleurus vulpes (Fabricius, 1781) - Glaphyridae | ||
Intanto metto una foto di una coppia di Pygopleurus vulpes:
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| Autore: | Maurizio Bollino [ 07/04/2014, 22:34 ] |
| Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: Pygopleurus vulpes (Fabricius, 1781) - Glaphyridae |
I was looking for vulpes' images in the forum, and have found this topic. I'd say that in this photo by Honza only first and second specimen (from the left) may be respectively male and female of Pygopleurus vulpes, even if I have some doubts. The others are two females and one male of a different taxon, but definitively not vulpes. If Jan may kindly indicate the locality of all specimens, this would help to understand what they are. Moreover these are two females of what most authors call Pygopleurus humeralis. |
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| Autore: | Honza [ 08/04/2014, 7:22 ] |
| Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: Pygopleurus vulpes (Fabricius, 1781) - Glaphyridae |
Maurizio Bollino ha scritto: I was looking for vulpes' images in the forum, and have found this topic. I'd say that in this photo by Honza Pygopleurus.jpg only first and second specimen (from the left) may be respectively male and female of Pygopleurus vulpes, even if I have some doubts. The others are two females and one male of a different taxon, but definitively not vulpes. If Jan may kindly indicate the locality of all specimens, this would help to understand what they are. Moreover these are two females of what most authors call Pygopleurus humeralis. OK Maurizio, At the moment I can not, I'm in hospital 
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| Autore: | Maurizio Bollino [ 15/04/2014, 11:45 ] |
| Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: Pygopleurus vulpes (Fabricius, 1781) - Glaphyridae |
Honza ha scritto: OK Maurizio, At the moment I can not, I'm in hospital Hi Jan, I hope you are recovering, or, better, that you are totally recovered. Let us know 
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| Autore: | Honza [ 15/04/2014, 12:31 ] | ||
| Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: Pygopleurus vulpes (Fabricius, 1781) - Glaphyridae | ||
Thank you, I have at home.Hopefully everything is okay.
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| Autore: | Maurizio Bollino [ 15/04/2014, 13:00 ] |
| Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: Pygopleurus vulpes (Fabricius, 1781) - Glaphyridae |
Hi Jan, thank you for the image. I'd say that N° 1 is vulpes. I am also quite sure that, if you compare the parameres of N° 1 with those of N° 5-6 (both are, most probably, the same species), you will find that they belong to another species, but definitively not vulpes. N° 2 and N° 4 might be females of vulpes (but N° 2 might be also diffusus), while N° 3 (female) and N° 7 (male?) both belong to some turkish species (they may be conspecific or not), but they are not vulpes. |
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| Autore: | Honza [ 15/04/2014, 14:06 ] |
| Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: Pygopleurus vulpes (Fabricius, 1781) - Glaphyridae |
Maurizio thank you very much for the information, it is evident that my collection Glaphyridae certain species necessary revision. |
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| Autore: | Guido Sabatinelli [ 15/04/2014, 14:37 ] |
| Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: Pygopleurus vulpes (Fabricius, 1781) - Glaphyridae |
Honza ha scritto: Maurizio thank you very much for the information, it is evident that my collection Glaphyridae certain species necessary revision. Dont worry! I am coming this summer.... but then you will not have any more a collection of Glaphyridae... 
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