Questo si muoveva in prossimita di un formicaio
chi sarà mai
forse un Histeridae di ca. 13 mm
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| Autore: | PierFrancescoMurgia [ 19/05/2011, 20:51 ] | |||
| Oggetto del messaggio: | Pactolinus major (Linnaeus, 1767) - Histeridae, Histerinae, Histerini - (CA) Sardegna | |||
Questo si muoveva in prossimita di un formicaio chi sarà mai forse un Histeridae di ca. 13 mm
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| Autore: | Pactolinus [ 19/05/2011, 21:23 ] |
| Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: Histeridae |
Un esemplare un po' vissuto di Pactolinus major (Linnaeus, 1767) Histeridae, Histerinae, Histerini 
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| Autore: | PierFrancescoMurgia [ 20/05/2011, 7:28 ] |
| Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: Pactolinus major (Linnaeus, 1767) - Histeridae, Histerinae, Histerini - (CA) Sardegna |
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| Autore: | AdYRuicanescu [ 20/05/2011, 8:40 ] |
| Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: Pactolinus major (Linnaeus, 1767) - Histeridae, Histerinae, Histerini - (CA) Sardegna |
Is this synonym with Paralister inaequalis? |
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| Autore: | Pactolinus [ 20/05/2011, 14:43 ] |
| Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: Pactolinus major (Linnaeus, 1767) - Histeridae, Histerinae, Histerini - (CA) Sardegna |
AdYRuicanescu ha scritto: Is this synonym with Paralister inaequalis? You're doing a bit 'of confusion  :Paralister is one of the subgenus of Margarinotus. I think you meant to say Pachylister (Pachylister) inaequalis (Olivier, 1789). Pachylister and Pactolinus (ex Macrolister) are two distinct genders. 
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| Autore: | AdYRuicanescu [ 20/05/2011, 19:10 ] |
| Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: Pactolinus major (Linnaeus, 1767) - Histeridae, Histerinae, Histerini - (CA) Sardegna |
Thank you. The last book I was using was Freude, Harde and Lohse, the first edition, where there it was named Paralister inaequalis. Before of this, I knew this species under the name Hister inaequalis. So, my knowledge about this group is quite ancient. |
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| Autore: | Pactolinus [ 20/05/2011, 20:34 ] |
| Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: Pactolinus major (Linnaeus, 1767) - Histeridae, Histerinae, Histerini - (CA) Sardegna |
AdYRuicanescu ha scritto: Thank you. The last book I was using was Freude, Harde and Lohse, the first edition, where there it was named Paralister inaequalis. Before of this, I knew this species under the name Hister inaequalis. So, my knowledge about this group is quite ancient. I don't have this bibliography. What year is it? Could you do a scan of the page with the mentioned "Paralister? Certainly in the old bibliography, Pachylister, Pactolinus, Margarinotus, Atholus and many others, were still referred to by their original generic name Hister.
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| Autore: | AdYRuicanescu [ 20/05/2011, 20:36 ] |
| Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: Pactolinus major (Linnaeus, 1767) - Histeridae, Histerinae, Histerini - (CA) Sardegna |
I will can tell you just on Monday, when I will go to my office. |
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| Autore: | Pactolinus [ 20/05/2011, 20:51 ] |
| Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: Pactolinus major (Linnaeus, 1767) - Histeridae, Histerinae, Histerini - (CA) Sardegna |
AdYRuicanescu ha scritto: I will can tell you just on Monday, when I will go to my office. Thanks!
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| Autore: | AdYRuicanescu [ 23/05/2011, 9:53 ] |
| Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: Pactolinus major (Linnaeus, 1767) - Histeridae, Histerinae, Histerini - (CA) Sardegna |
Well, I am answering now. First, it was my erroneous mind, the species inaequalis is mentioned here as Pachylister, but exists the genus Paralister Bickh., which contents the following species: stercorarius (Hoffm.), bipustulatus (Schrk.) (=fimetarius Hbst.), purpurascens (Hbst.), ventralis (Mars.), neglectus (Germ.), ignobilis (Mars.) and carbonarius (Hoffm.). BTW Pactolinus major (L.) is cited here as belonging to the genus Macrolister Lew. If you need other data, I will be glad to help. Cited from: Witzgall Von Konrad. 1971. Familienreihe Histeroidea, Familie Histeridae, pp.: 156-189, in: Freude H, Harde K. W., Lohse G. A. Die Kӓfer Mitteleuropas, Band 3 Adephaga 2, Palpicornia, Histeroidea und Staphylinoidea 1. Goecke & Evers, Krefeld. |
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| Autore: | Pactolinus [ 24/05/2011, 1:06 ] |
| Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: Pactolinus major (Linnaeus, 1767) - Histeridae, Histerinae, Histerini - (CA) Sardegna |
Dear Adrian, as I thought, these are bibliographic outdated data, and taxonomy is somewhat changed. Paralister is a subgenus of Margarinotus, and you can find the Italian species in my catalog, posted here on the Forum. (This catalog is drawn - as written - from the electronic version of the World Catalogue of Histeridae. - The last taxonomic update of this catalog, dates back to February 22, 2011) Macrolister is now Pactolinus. Also Pachylister is now splitted into three genus and two subgenus: P. (Pachylister), P. (Sulcignathos), Nasaltus and Santalus. I hope that now everything is more clear! Thank you for citing literature: I'll try to find this on the web, otherwise I'll photocopy it in S.E.I.! Soon Giovanni
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| Autore: | AdYRuicanescu [ 24/05/2011, 9:03 ] |
| Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: Pactolinus major (Linnaeus, 1767) - Histeridae, Histerinae, Histerini - (CA) Sardegna |
I am glad to be useful. Unfortunately I have not a scanner to can give you a photocopy of those pages. All I can do is to take pictures with the mobile phone 
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