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Lycosidae sp.
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Autore:  hsn6a [ 06/08/2023, 22:53 ]
Oggetto del messaggio:  Lycosidae sp.

800 m.

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Autore:  Endervale [ 24/08/2023, 19:31 ]
Oggetto del messaggio:  Re: agel

Consistent with a Alopecosa sp.
Impossible to determine on a species level from this picture.

Autore:  elleelle [ 24/08/2023, 23:05 ]
Oggetto del messaggio:  Re: agel

I think the genus is Hogna.

Autore:  hsn6a [ 25/08/2023, 12:55 ]
Oggetto del messaggio:  Re: agel

elleelle ha scritto:
I think the genus is Hogna.

thanks..

Autore:  Endervale [ 25/08/2023, 12:57 ]
Oggetto del messaggio:  Re: agel

To be honest, its really hard to tell any good diagnostic characteristics from this picture, however, of the 3 known turkish species of Hogna (radiata, graeca, effera) none quite correspond with this spider, so this is either
A: a Hogna that has lost most of its hairs due to weathering or
B: some weird Alopecosa (hard to tell which due to the large number of species)
unfortunately the two Generas have some surprisingly similar looking spiders and to be sure we'd have to look at genitals or the number of teeth in the Cheliceral retromargin.

Autore:  hsn6a [ 25/08/2023, 13:01 ]
Oggetto del messaggio:  Re: agel

Endervale ha scritto:
To be honest, its really hard to tell any good diagnostic characteristics from this picture, however, of the 3 known species of Hogna (radiata, graeca, effera) none quite correspond with this spider, so this is either
A: a Hogna that has lost most of its hairs due to weathering or
B: some weird Alopecosa (hard to tell which due to the large number of species)
unfortunately the two Generas have some surprisingly similar looking spiders and to be sure we'd have to look at genitals or the number of teeth in the Cheliceral retromargin.

thanks for your comment...

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