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Autore: | Frantisek [ 04/04/2015, 13:57 ] |
Oggetto del messaggio: | Monotoma gotzi Holzschuh et Lohse, 1981 - Monotomidae |
EXCLUSIVELY FOR THIS FORUM: M. gotzi has, as I found out, different structure of pronotum than M. brevicollis. There are large dots, while structure of pronotum of M. brevicollis looks rather as a grid. Shape of body of M. gotzi is a little bit narrower. I have found M. gotzi also here in the southern Bohemia in my garden ![]() It is often erroneously determined (also by specialists) as M. brevicollis. M. gotzi, female: M. gotzi, pronotum: M. gotzi, aedeagus: M. brevicollis, aedeagus: M. picipes, aedeagus: |
Autore: | Julodis [ 04/04/2015, 14:10 ] |
Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: Monotoma gotzi Holzschuh et Lohse, 1981 - Monotomidae |
Very fine photos! |
Autore: | Frantisek [ 04/04/2015, 14:14 ] |
Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: Monotoma gotzi Holzschuh et Lohse, 1981 - Monotomidae |
In Valle Terme I have found 1ex. male + 1ex. female M. gotzi, together with M. brevicollis, longicollis and picipes. ![]() thanks |
Autore: | Lech Borowiec [ 04/04/2015, 14:53 ] |
Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: Monotoma gotzi Holzschuh et Lohse, 1981 - Monotomidae |
Dear Frantisek, I would be appreciate for possibility to use this photo of Monotoma gotzi in my Iconographia Coleopterorum Poloniae (with your copyright note). Is it possible? |
Autore: | Daniele Maccapani [ 04/04/2015, 15:15 ] |
Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: Monotoma gotzi Holzschuh et Lohse, 1981 - Monotomidae |
Dear Frantisek, thankyou so much for these fantastic photos! ![]() |
Autore: | Frantisek [ 04/04/2015, 16:13 ] |
Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: Monotoma gotzi Holzschuh et Lohse, 1981 - Monotomidae |
ok Lech, use this photo ![]() I am often exploring Iconography Poloniae, great tool ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Autore: | Lech Borowiec [ 04/04/2015, 16:40 ] |
Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: Monotoma gotzi Holzschuh et Lohse, 1981 - Monotomidae |
Thank you!!! Lech |
Autore: | Frantisek [ 04/04/2015, 22:20 ] |
Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: Monotoma gotzi Holzschuh et Lohse, 1981 - Monotomidae |
I have made quick photo of pronotum of Monotoma brevicollis, for comparisons: |
Autore: | Daniele Maccapani [ 05/04/2015, 23:00 ] |
Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: Monotoma gotzi Holzschuh et Lohse, 1981 - Monotomidae |
Thank'you again Frantisek ![]() ![]() |
Autore: | Gianfranco [ 05/04/2015, 23:07 ] |
Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: Monotoma gotzi Holzschuh et Lohse, 1981 - Monotomidae |
Frantisek ha scritto: I have made quick photo of pronotum of Monotoma brevicollis, for comparisons: Monotoma brevicollis pronotum.JPG Dear Frantisek Thank you very much, but the difference is not so clear! ![]() ![]() Best regards Gianfranco |
Autore: | Frantisek [ 06/04/2015, 0:03 ] |
Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: Monotoma gotzi Holzschuh et Lohse, 1981 - Monotomidae |
There is no place between the dots on the shield in M. gotzi, there are only sharp edges. If it isn't clear, then you must explore aedeagus! The photos of aedeagus are here, you can easily compare it. When I first time saw these two species side by side, I noticed a difference of two specimens, but I was not sure, if it means something and if I see well. So I sent them to the specialist... but he returned all as M. brevicollis. Then I decided, for sure, to explore the aedeagus and I was very surprised ![]() ![]() |
Autore: | Frantisek [ 06/04/2015, 11:01 ] |
Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: Monotoma gotzi Holzschuh et Lohse, 1981 - Monotomidae |
ooops there is fatal error - correction: There is no place between the dots on the shield in M. BREVICOLLIS, there are only sharp edges. ![]() |
Autore: | FORBIX [ 06/04/2015, 12:32 ] |
Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: Monotoma gotzi Holzschuh et Lohse, 1981 - Monotomidae |
Direct comparison ![]() ![]() |
Autore: | Maura [ 17/01/2016, 20:40 ] |
Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: Monotoma gotzi Holzschuh et Lohse, 1981 - Monotomidae |
Frantisek ha scritto: In Valle Terme I have found 1ex. male + 1ex. female M. gotzi, together with M. brevicollis, longicollis and picipes. ![]() thanks Where is located "Valle Terme"? |
Autore: | Livio [ 17/01/2016, 21:33 ] |
Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: Monotoma gotzi Holzschuh et Lohse, 1981 - Monotomidae |
Maura ha scritto: Frantisek ha scritto: In Valle Terme I have found 1ex. male + 1ex. female M. gotzi, together with M. brevicollis, longicollis and picipes. ![]() thanks Where is located "Valle Terme"? Ciao Maura! ![]() Intende Vallio Terme ![]() |
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