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Autore:	strepens [ 13/01/2022, 22:11 ]
Oggetto del messaggio:	Phyllocerus elateroides (Menetries, 1832) - Eucnemidae
Male and female specimens, were found in the same day, on Thymus sp. (altitude 600m a.s.l.) and on Onopordum sp. (altitude 100m a.s.l.) plants respectively. Length 15 mm (male) and 23 mm (female). One more female (much smaller in length) was found 1 year earlier (04/VIII/1991), in NW Greece. Never seen again this genus in my life. George Allegati:

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Autore:	gabrif [ 14/01/2022, 17:12 ]
Oggetto del messaggio:	Re: Phyllocerus elateroides
They do not look at all like the Eucnemidae I have met so far... G.

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Autore:	strepens [ 14/01/2022, 18:56 ]
Oggetto del messaggio:	Re: Phyllocerus elateroides
Indeed, even in Winkler's catalog (1924-1932) they are considered as a separate family, under the name "Phylloceridae". Although at the end of the book (Corrigenda et Delenda), it mentions the transfer of the genus Phyllocerus to the Melasidae (= Eucnemidae). I just read again (somewhat hastily) some parts from J. Muona's wonderful work (Review of the phylogeny, classification and biology of the Eucnemidae family, 1993), based on morphological criteria. There it seems that Phyllocerinae is a rather primitive branch, clearly separated from all the other groups of the family Eucnemidae. G.

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Autore:	Fumea crassiorella [ 14/01/2022, 19:37 ]
Oggetto del messaggio:	Re: Phyllocerus elateroides
What a wonderful species! I have never seen it before

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Autore:	Glaphyrus [ 14/01/2022, 20:01 ]
Oggetto del messaggio:	Re: Phyllocerus elateroides
Great animal! Never seen before, me too!

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