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Autore: | f.izzillo [ 27/03/2015, 16:40 ] |
Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: Osmoderma barnabita - sensu Audisio et all 2007 |
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Autore: | AleP [ 27/03/2015, 17:24 ] |
Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: Osmoderma barnabita - sensu Audisio et all 2007 |
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Autore: | Antonio Verdugo [ 27/03/2015, 21:02 ] |
Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: Osmoderma barnabita - sensu Audisio et all 2007 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Congratulations Adam!! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Very interesting beetle!!. If is possible in the future to find new larvae, I'm very gratefully for to receiv its!!! |
Autore: | Uncle Adam [ 29/03/2015, 17:26 ] |
Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: Osmoderma barnabita - sensu Audisio et all 2007 |
Francesco, Alessandro - thank you! ![]() Antonio - I can explore the species, but I can not collect specimens - neither larvae nor imagines, because in the EU (especially in Poland) Osmoderma spp. is strictly protected !!! ![]() ![]() |
Autore: | Antonio Verdugo [ 29/03/2015, 18:02 ] |
Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: Osmoderma barnabita - sensu Audisio et all 2007 |
Uncle Adam ha scritto: Francesco, Alessandro - thank you! ![]() Antonio - I can explore the species, but I can not collect specimens - neither larvae nor imagines, because in the EU (especially in Poland) Osmoderma spp. is strictly protected !!! ![]() ![]() Yes Adam, I know... Excuse me please for the request!!. |
Autore: | Uncle Adam [ 29/03/2015, 18:51 ] |
Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: Osmoderma barnabita - sensu Audisio et all 2007 |
No problem, Antonio! ![]() I understand how many scientific naturalists interested in Osmoderma spp., and would like to know about them as much as possible. And so much to learn, you need to have the material, and the material to work with. ![]() |
Autore: | Antonio Verdugo [ 29/03/2015, 18:58 ] |
Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: Osmoderma barnabita - sensu Audisio et all 2007 |
Uncle Adam ha scritto: No problem, Antonio! ![]() I understand how many scientific naturalists interested in Osmoderma spp., and would like to know about them as much as possible. And so much to learn, you need to have the material, and the material to work with. ![]() Yes Adam, You are right! ![]() Many time do not remember the prohibition of to catch some protected species!! Antonio ![]() |
Autore: | Glaphyrus [ 30/03/2015, 12:58 ] |
Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: Osmoderma barnabita - sensu Audisio et all 2007 |
Dear all, I was asked by Pierre Tauzin to add his following comment. Pierre Tauzin ha scritto: May I ask you to add the 2 attached pdf files concerning the taxon , in the following post for the information
of the all entomologists, and also my followings comments . viewtopic.php?f=11&t=60408 It's strange to use the name of Motschulsky for one Omoderma species in West Europa , and I don't understand why some entomologists have suggest this choice !!. If you read the paper of Motschulsky (1860) , the autor write (in French) that he has done one mystake with the locality of the first O. barnabita describe in his 1845 pup, and correct the locality (locus typicus) . Please, look at the color picture of O. barnabita (drawing of Motschulsky) attached in the 1860 'pdf. |
Autore: | Antonio Verdugo [ 30/03/2015, 13:10 ] |
Oggetto del messaggio: | Re: Osmoderma barnabita - sensu Audisio et all 2007 |
Glaphyrus ha scritto: Dear all, I was asked by Pierre Tauzin to add his following comment. Pierre Tauzin ha scritto: May I ask you to add the 2 attached pdf files concerning the taxon , in the following post for the information of the all entomologists, and also my followings comments . viewtopic.php?f=11&t=60408 It's strange to use the name of Motschulsky for one Omoderma species in West Europa , and I don't understand why some entomologists have suggest this choice !!. If you read the paper of Motschulsky (1860) , the autor write (in French) that he has done one mystake with the locality of the first O. barnabita describe in his 1845 pup, and correct the locality (locus typicus) . Please, look at the color picture of O. barnabita (drawing of Motschulsky) attached in the 1860 'pdf. Motschulsky V., 1845 Osmoderma barnabita Bull. Soc Imp..pdf s Reisen und Forschungen.pdf Yes, it seems that O. barnabita is a synonyme of O. coriarium De Geer, 1774. The same as Osmoderma septentrionale Tauzin, 1994. See Catalogue of Palaearctic Coleoptera, vol 3: 308 (2006) ![]() |
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